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Coupling Tamoxifen and Clomiphene is superior in HPTA recovery than individual use
There are 2 major components involved in recovery. Testosterone production and spermatogenesis.
LH and FSH are both required for the equation. LH is produced by the pituitary and stimulates the testes to produce testosterone. FSH stimulates spermatozoa. They both work in synergy. You need BOTH to be at healthy levels. LH in range means you've got testosterone production and FSH in good range means you're fertile.
Clomid has multiple effects. Its an anti-estrogen so it obviously decreases the estrogenic effects in your body by stimulating the hypothalamus.
Nolva boosts the effects of clomid because it puts it into "competition" mode where they both fight for a receptor to bind to. This competitiveness will only happen with the presence of both compounds and will inevitably resolve the issue of excess estrogen in the hypothalamus.
Furthermore varying the compounds; Since we know both stimulate the LH, what most don't know is that the act is different. Clomid boosts the amplitude of LH serum but has no effect on the frequency. Nolvadex is the complete opposite in that area, where it boosts the actual frequency of LH and has no effect on its amplitude.
More...clomid is a mixed agonist/antagonist for the estradiol receptor. Nolva is also mixed, however, it is a pure antagonist in the E receptor in breast tissue. There is a reason that clomid is not recommended for gynecomastia reversal but nolva is. Second to ralox that is.
Can you recover with just nolva, or just clomid? Well, yes. Its very possible. Why would you take that risk if the combo gives you a much better chance? Clomid when coupled with nolva is clearly the safer choice over using either compound individually.
Lastly, when you guys are getting panels ordered or estrogen levels, please be sure to order either a sensitive or ultra sensitive E2 assay. A standard estradiol test is best used to gauge women. Sensitive assays are better used for men. Get both if you'd like. You will see that you will get different results. In my case, sensitive assays would better indicate a considerably higher result than the estradiol test. This will help you with your dosage protocol as you may have issues that you're not aware of.
Coupling Tamoxifen and Clomiphene is superior in HPTA recovery than individual use
There are 2 major components involved in recovery. Testosterone production and spermatogenesis.
LH and FSH are both required for the equation. LH is produced by the pituitary and stimulates the testes to produce testosterone. FSH stimulates spermatozoa. They both work in synergy. You need BOTH to be at healthy levels. LH in range means you've got testosterone production and FSH in good range means you're fertile.
Clomid has multiple effects. Its an anti-estrogen so it obviously decreases the estrogenic effects in your body by stimulating the hypothalamus.
Nolva boosts the effects of clomid because it puts it into "competition" mode where they both fight for a receptor to bind to. This competitiveness will only happen with the presence of both compounds and will inevitably resolve the issue of excess estrogen in the hypothalamus.
Furthermore varying the compounds; Since we know both stimulate the LH, what most don't know is that the act is different. Clomid boosts the amplitude of LH serum but has no effect on the frequency. Nolvadex is the complete opposite in that area, where it boosts the actual frequency of LH and has no effect on its amplitude.
More...clomid is a mixed agonist/antagonist for the estradiol receptor. Nolva is also mixed, however, it is a pure antagonist in the E receptor in breast tissue. There is a reason that clomid is not recommended for gynecomastia reversal but nolva is. Second to ralox that is.
Can you recover with just nolva, or just clomid? Well, yes. Its very possible. Why would you take that risk if the combo gives you a much better chance? Clomid when coupled with nolva is clearly the safer choice over using either compound individually.
Lastly, when you guys are getting panels ordered or estrogen levels, please be sure to order either a sensitive or ultra sensitive E2 assay. A standard estradiol test is best used to gauge women. Sensitive assays are better used for men. Get both if you'd like. You will see that you will get different results. In my case, sensitive assays would better indicate a considerably higher result than the estradiol test. This will help you with your dosage protocol as you may have issues that you're not aware of.