Janoshik Chemical Analysis Service

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Hello,

I am Janoshik, owner of Janoshik Analytical.

We do chemical analysis on anabolic steroids, HGH, SARMs and everything related and many things unrelated.

The business exists since 2013, when I started it to help out my friends who were plagued by fake gear. Fairly early my friends convinced me to start offering the service to the general public at 4chan fitness board and now defunct SST subreddit. Some stuff happened since then, some bad, which I'm sure many heard about, other mostly good, as I have around 3000 unique and happy clients by now. We are, at the moment the biggest AAS testing laboratory in the world.

Only thing as legendary as the straight out industrial amount of tests that I output is my terrible personality and humor.

I tend to answer any questions laid out in a respectful manner.

Best way to contact me would be at info (at) janoshik.com.

If anybody has any questions, shoot and I'll do my best to answer over the weekend.

Cheers
 

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Janoshik, thank you for explaining your services in more detail. Couple of questions.

- How accurate is your testing method, within what percent?
- Does it determine the specific compound? Dosage?
- Are there specific compounds that are harder to determine than others?

Would you be willing to accept a couple of samples from a veteran member free of charge to demonstrate your services accuracy?

Thank you
 

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I see the value of this service. I got some "anavar" awhile back for my girl that I'm pretty certain was NOT actually anavar.

She ran into problems really quickly, thankfully they reversed, but it would've been nice to have a higher level of confidence in what she was taken.
 

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>- How accurate is your testing method, within what percent?
This is impossible to answer in general, as the testing methods vary a lot.

For example, with testosterone I have validated the results within 2%.
Drostanolone is a bit more icky, as it can be very troublesome to be analyzed by the same method as testosterone (or most other AAS).

Generally, I'd put the safe margin for about 5%. If it is higher for some reason I note that in the report comments.

It is, generally, not viable to attempt to have a margin of error under 2%, as the increase in costs would greatly offset (cost) availability of the service.

>- Does it determine the specific compound? Dosage?

Testing for common anabolic steroids - which I assume is what interests you the most - priced at 80 Euro / 95 USD determines presence and dosage of all common AAS in the sample.

>- Are there specific compounds that are harder to determine than others?

Again, if we talk about common anabolic steroids, then drostanolone is a major pain via HPLC, which is my go-to method for AAS analysis, so nowadays I do most drostanolone propionate (and suspect drostanolone enanthate ones) samples on GC-MS.

GC-MS is absolutely wonderful for anabolic steroids analysis, but it will always be less accurate and precise than HPLC-DAD for determining concentration, due to inherent limitations of the technology, so I always use HPLC-DAD first.

Then, there are, steroids, which are absolutely terrible to analyze on GCMS (stanozolol) or straight out impossible to analyze on it (metribolone).
 

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I see the value of this service. I got some "anavar" awhile back for my girl that I'm pretty certain was NOT actually anavar.

She ran into problems really quickly, thankfully they reversed, but it would've been nice to have a higher level of confidence in what she was taken.

I am fairly sure I have a rather good name in the female fitness community.

I'm getting a lot of competing or not competing ladies contacting me about testing their pills going by personal recommendation.

Women are much more sensitive to issues with their AAS, so they oft already have an idea if there is or isn't something wrong and they usually find my results align with that.

Which in turn leads to them being quite confident in my service and using it more proactively (sending samples before they start to use them, instead of sending them mid-cycle when something feels wrong).

I like to think I've helped many ladies achieve their goals safely.
 

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Janoshik, thank you for explaining your services in more detail. Couple of questions.

- How accurate is your testing method, within what percent?
- Does it determine the specific compound? Dosage?
- Are there specific compounds that are harder to determine than others?

Would you be willing to accept a couple of samples from a veteran member free of charge to demonstrate your services accuracy?

Thank you

I would like to see an answer to this. Primarily the free testing part.
 

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I would like to see an answer to this. Primarily the free testing part.
Thank you, I missed that as there was not "-" in front of it my brain sorta skipped it.

>Would you be willing to accept a couple of samples from a veteran member free of charge to demonstrate your services accuracy?
No, I do not do such things, due to several reasons.

The most important reason for you would be the fact, that had I accepted it, I would know that the said samples are used to test me.

What merit would such tests have then for demonstration?

The second reason, important for me would be that it would go against equal treatment of my clients.
 

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Thank you, I missed that as there was not "-" in front of it my brain sorta skipped it.

>Would you be willing to accept a couple of samples from a veteran member free of charge to demonstrate your services accuracy?
No, I do not do such things, due to several reasons.

The most important reason for you would be the fact, that had I accepted it, I would know that the said samples are used to test me.

What merit would such tests have then for demonstration?

The second reason, important for me would be that it would go against equal treatment of my clients.

It's just a way to verify the service, of course it is to test your service accuracy. With respect to other clients do you pay to advertise on forums? We have asked for nothing and unlike other forums I will drive this post to the top of the search engines. Other admins do not have those skill sets.

No worries if it makes you uncomfortable it's not a shot at you as I said just a way to verify accuracy of the service. Thanks for sharing the details of the service.
 

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It's just a way to verify the service, of course it is to test your service accuracy. With respect to other clients do you pay to advertise on forums? We have asked for nothing and unlike other forums I will drive this post to the top of the search engines. Other admins do not have those skill sets.

No worries if it makes you uncomfortable it's not a shot at you as I said just a way to verify accuracy of the service. Thanks for sharing the details of the service.
I don't pay anywhere and frankly, I don't have any marketing or SEO to speak of either, I work just by word of mouth and by my participation in forums.

I hope you won't mind me mentioning Meso, but one thing they are right about over there is that the tested subject shouldn't know it's being tested beforehand, as it messes up the point entirely. I've read it parroted so many times it kinda stuck to me too - and I agree with that.

Honestly, if I was a crook and I knew you'd be sending, e.g., 2 samples to test me, what would prevent me from sending those samples to a different lab to get the results?
Or if I knew a veteran is sending samples to me and I knew it, would his experience be the same as common Joe's or would he be given special preferential treatment in order to vouch for me?

Even if it is something that doesn't occur to one at the first thought, I've heard those arguments far too many times and I'm sure they'd surface at some point again.

I think treating all samples the same, without knowing and caring who sends them, why they are being sent and who produced them is very important to impartiality, which is a building stone of a business like mine. There comes my inside rule to treat all clients and samples the same too, within reasonable means.

If it comes to vetting, I'm fairly sure there are members here who used my service before - before I knew they were members here or anything, so maybe they could chime in and provide us with their experience and thoughts on me. I think that could possibly be considered unbiased?
 

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Welcome I've known of your service for the last 7yrs or so, just never used it. Maybe if the wife lets me, I'll send some home brew for analysis after christmas. Does the state of the substance matter? Powder, already finished vialed?
 

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Welcome. I've heard of you for years on some other boards. Glad to have you here.
 

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Welcome I've known of your service for the last 7yrs or so, just never used it. Maybe if the wife lets me, I'll send some home brew for analysis after christmas. Does the state of the substance matter? Powder, already finished vialed?

No it doesn't, same price for common AAS, whether raw, oils or orals - 80 Euro or about 95 USD currently.

0.5 ml of oil, 200 mg of raw or 2-3 pieces of orals are enough for the analysis - I usually guide people to pick the proper container.
 

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I’ve been skeptical of your service for sometime (I’m naturally a skeptic, it’s no offense to you)

I may send 2 or 3 things in sometime this winter and see what I think. This may have been answered before but if something is sent in we do not need to tell you what compound it needs to be tested for correct? And is the accuracy any different when testing blends? Both of multiple compounds and of something like sustanon with different esters?
 

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I’ve been skeptical of your service for sometime (I’m naturally a skeptic, it’s no offense to you)

I may send 2 or 3 things in sometime this winter and see what I think. This may have been answered before but if something is sent in we do not need to tell you what compound it needs to be tested for correct? And is the accuracy any different when testing blends? Both of multiple compounds and of something like sustanon with different esters?
Skepticism is good.

All common anabolic steroids are tested with the same tests, so I don't need (or want) to know anything other than that it's a common AAS oil.

Of course, stuff like oxandrolone in oil, while oxandrolone is a common AAS, it's not common in oil, so I would need to be aware of that.

In pills, testosterone enanthate wouldn't be common either... Basically, if it doesn't make you stop and go woah, I don't need to know.

Sorry for not providing a detailed list of the AAS that are common, but I've had one hell of a day at work today and I'm gonna need some rest :)

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Accuracy doesn't change with blends - in very few cases drostanolone can be affected, but I believe I've gotten rid of that too by now.

Cheers
 

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Skepticism is good.

All common anabolic steroids are tested with the same tests, so I don't need (or want) to know anything other than that it's a common AAS oil.

Of course, stuff like oxandrolone in oil, while oxandrolone is a common AAS, it's not common in oil, so I would need to be aware of that.

In pills, testosterone enanthate wouldn't be common either... Basically, if it doesn't make you stop and go woah, I don't need to know.

Sorry for not providing a detailed list of the AAS that are common, but I've had one hell of a day at work today and I'm gonna need some rest :)

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Accuracy doesn't change with blends - in very few cases drostanolone can be affected, but I believe I've gotten rid of that too by now.

Cheers

awesome, thanks for the reply. No need to list, I think most people that aren’t brand new know what is common and what is not.
 

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I've been watching this guy test for years. If I had something I wanted tested, this is who I would send it to.

And yes, I would do it if he never joined this board.
 
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Sorry man. I’m new and lost. I can’t send janoshik a private message yet.

do you know where I can go to find the answer to me question?

How much does Janoshik testing cost?
How about janoshik reviews?
 

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Sorry man. I’m new and lost. I can’t send janoshik a private message yet.

do you know where I can go to find the answer to me question?

It's in the first post...
 

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I've been watching this guy test for years. If I had something I wanted tested, this is who I would send it to.

And yes, I would do it if he never joined this board.

Thank you, I appreciate the trust.


Smalls said:
There's an email in the first post.
 

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Has anybody here used janoshik's services? There are so many underground labs out there a testing service such as Janoshik or the one Millard runs (anabolic lab I believe) may provide some level of quality control for the source.

I do have some concerns one of the testing companies could be a source as well as have a few other things going on.
 

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