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Do you have any idea what DNP does to your T3 levels. Unless you want to be miserable with crashed levels, a low dose to replenish natural levels is advisable. 50 mcg is not going to set you to critical levels of risking going catabolic unless you’re a 100 pound female.

Additionally, thru the mechanism which DNP burns fat, it is considered to have anti-catabolic effects relative to other fat burners.

This is all relative and of course you will burn some muscle when in a caloric deficit; however, you will not lose any more muscle by using DNP, Clen, or replenishing amounts of T3 than you would naturally losing the weight at the same pace.

Suggesting that you should use exogenous anabolic hormones so “you don’t risk muscle catabolism” is about as ignorant of a comment that I’ve seen in a while.

DNP - Anti-Catabolic Effects Relative to Natural
Clen - Anti-Catabolic Effects Relative to Natural
T3 - Catabolic at high dosages, but at low dosages to replenish natural levels is negligible.

No need any additional fat burners apart than DNP, period.

T3, unlike other fat burners like ECA, clen, can destroy muscle tissue.

I have been using DNP for many years and the same thing is repeated on all the message boards: do not use T3 unless you are using anabolic hormones. It is not necessary and increases the risk of muscle catabolism.

And no, you don't need T3 to restore your natural thyroid levels, that will happen naturally.
 

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Be patient, if your diet is correct, you will have to drop a lot of fat before you need cardio sessions. I would worry more about lifting and building some muscle.
@Londinium , I have nothing but love for @Beti ona . He is a great board member who is very insightful.

With that said, he is the angel on your right shoulder and I'm the devil on your left. My advice is take everything that will help you lose the weight. You can start dropping specific items from your menu when you are closer to your weight loss goals. I was at 185 this morning. Yeah, my blood work probably looks bad, but I am looking good.

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@Londinium , I have nothing but love for @Beti ona . He is a great board member who is very insightful.

With that said, he is the angel on your right shoulder and I'm the devil on your left. My advice is take everything that will help you lose the weight. You can start dropping specific items from your menu when you are closer to your weight loss goals. I was at 185 this morning. Yeah, my blood work probably looks bad, but I am looking good.

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im not tryna look cut up to be honest just at a healthy weight
id prefer a bit of fat on me anyway since im trying to stay natty and build muscle
which is nigh on impossible when im really cut
 
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No need any additional fat burners apart than DNP, period.

T3, unlike other fat burners like ECA, clen, can destroy muscle tissue.

I have been using DNP for many years and the same thing is repeated on all the message boards: do not use T3 unless you are using anabolic hormones. It is not necessary and increases the risk of muscle catabolism.

And no, you don't need T3 to restore your natural thyroid levels, that will happen naturally.
I highly suggest you read up on the compounds you’re taking.

Your “advice” is bro science that’s about 10 years out dated.

T3 at replenishing amounts is not going to put you at risk of catabolism.

DNP depletes your t3 levels… go to a doctor and ask what a recommended dosage for t3 is for hypothyroidism in an adult male. Getting your t3 levels back to within a normal range while on DNP is actually a good thing.

If you take 75 mcg or even up to 150 mcg, then of course you’re entering the catabolic zone as you go from replenishing your natural amounts to heightening your levels beyond that which is natural.
 

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I highly suggest you read up on the compounds you’re taking.

Your “advice” is bro science that’s about 10 years out dated.

T3 at replenishing amounts is not going to put you at risk of catabolism.

DNP depletes your t3 levels… go to a doctor and ask what a recommended dosage for t3 is for hypothyroidism in an adult male. Getting your t3 levels back to within a normal range while on DNP is actually a good thing.

If you take 75 mcg or even up to 150 mcg, then of course you’re entering the catabolic zone as you go from replenishing your natural amounts to heightening your levels beyond that which is natural.

Anyone on a severe cutting diet will have a decrease in natural hormone production.

I have never used T3, I have no problem with that. I also don't use test or any other steroid.

Use T3 in low doses if you think it is necessary, no to me. But I would prefer to use steroids.
 
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Anyone on a severe cutting diet will have a decrease in natural hormone production.

I have never used T3, I have no problem with that. I also don't use test or any other steroid.

Use T3 in low doses if you think it is necessary, no to me. But I would prefer to use steroids.
If you prefer to be on trt for life, then sure add some test along with any other other anabolic steroid.

If you’re just trying to cut quicker, which most people taking DNP are trying to do… no need to suppress your HPTA with steroids.

DNP and fat burners are one thing.

Androgens that eventually lead to a life of trt is completely different and has a whole different pros and cons.

Fat burners like clen, ephedrine, DNP, caffeine, t3, etc do not come with the notion that you’re lowering your baseline testosterone level and that much closer to a life of trt.

Therefore, you are very ignorant if you would tell someone not taking steroids that they should take steroids with DNP instead of replenishing their T3 to normal levels while on DNP. Supplementing T3 while on DNP is remedying a side effect from taking DNP. Taking steroids while on DNP is just adding more risk and unnecessary sides that aren’t worth it if the user isn’t already taking steroids.

You really shouldn’t be advising people if you don’t know what you’re talking about when handing out advice.
 

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By God, I'm done with you, I don't use any drug other than DNP oe Ephedrine in rare times, you don't need other burners or anything else to burn fat. If you want to use T3 is your choice, if you want to use androgens, insulin, GH, go to hell with it. I don't give a shit.

I have been on this board much longer than you, I am respected member and I contribute positively, I have never given wrong or harmful advice.

Well, bye, and you go to my blocked list.
 
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On my 4th week of dnp and im barely sweating now
For the first 2 weeks i would have trouble sleeping because of it and the heat as well
On the 3rd i could do one set of any exercise and id be dripping with sweat but now the sweating has gotten dare i say back to normal
Does this mean i finally need to up my dose?
 
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Just found out the place i got my DNP from doesnt sell them anymore
Just as im about to run out ffs
Gr8
 

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On my 4th week of dnp and im barely sweating now
For the first 2 weeks i would have trouble sleeping because of it and the heat as well
On the 3rd i could do one set of any exercise and id be dripping with sweat but now the sweating has gotten dare i say back to normal
Does this mean i finally need to up my dose?
I don't believe the sweating is an indicator of fat loss. At 200mg I didn't sweat much or even feel warm most of the time, but I still lost fat. I'm guessing your sides are diminished because your fitness level is improving.
 
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I don't believe the sweating is an indicator of fat loss. At 200mg I didn't sweat much or even feel warm most of the time, but I still lost fat. I'm guessing your sides are diminished because your fitness level is improving.
im definitely fitter id say but its looking like im gonna have to stop from next week onwards until i can get a new plug for my dnp
 
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By God, I'm done with you, I don't use any drug other than DNP oe Ephedrine in rare times, you don't need other burners or anything else to burn fat. If you want to use T3 is your choice, if you want to use androgens, insulin, GH, go to hell with it. I don't give a shit.

I have been on this board much longer than you, I am respected member and I contribute positively, I have never given wrong or harmful advice.

Well, bye, and you go to my blocked list.
Come on man. Don’t be that guy that gets offended when corrected and then tries to use your tenure to substantiate bad advice you’re giving.

Bottom line is that DNP does in fact crash t3 levels and hypothyroidism on top of the direct sides from DNP is not something that should be ignored.

Take the advice, learn something, and understand that everyone is learning and that you will be wrong here or there. No need to get all upset and let your ego ruin the advice this and other boards offer to prying eyes reading anonymously.
 
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On my 4th week of dnp and im barely sweating now
For the first 2 weeks i would have trouble sleeping because of it and the heat as well
On the 3rd i could do one set of any exercise and id be dripping with sweat but now the sweating has gotten dare i say back to normal
Does this mean i finally need to up my dose?
I say this again… if you’ve been on for four weeks, you should probably come off for a bit and then you can try it again later.

Being on for months is reckless. DNP is not healthy to begin with and you shouldn’t be on it for long periods of time.

Get your diet in check and the weight will start coming off more.

Come off and see if you can maintain the weight loss. There’s no point in losing all the weight of you are just going to gain it back when you come off DNP.
 
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I say this again… if you’ve been on for four weeks, you should probably come off for a bit and then you can try it again later.

Being on for months is reckless. DNP is not healthy to begin with and you shouldn’t be on it for long periods of time.

Get your diet in check and the weight will start coming off more.

Come off and see if you can maintain the weight loss. There’s no point in losing all the weight of you are just going to gain it back when you come off DNP.
ill probably go off next week as ill be out by then
ill reassess then and i know for sure im in a deficit
ive calculated and recalculated
 

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Come on man. Don’t be that guy that gets offended when corrected and then tries to use your tenure to substantiate bad advice you’re giving.

Bottom line is that DNP does in fact crash t3 levels and hypothyroidism on top of the direct sides from DNP is not something that should be ignored.

Take the advice, learn something, and understand that everyone is learning and that you will be wrong here or there. No need to get all upset and let your ego ruin the advice this and other boards offer to prying eyes reading anonymously.
How about you provide the studies backing up your claim?
 

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On my 4th week of dnp and im barely sweating now
For the first 2 weeks i would have trouble sleeping because of it and the heat as well
On the 3rd i could do one set of any exercise and id be dripping with sweat but now the sweating has gotten dare i say back to normal
Does this mean i finally need to up my dose?
The original research by concilitor who was the dnp guru years ago showed there was an slowing of fat loss after 2 or 3 weeks at a given dose. The fix was to increase the dose by 75mg which resumed the weight loss. The original cutting and tainter from the 30s.
 
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ill probably go off next week as ill be out by then
ill reassess then and i know for sure im in a deficit
ive calculated and recalculated
If you’re actually conscious of what you put in your body, you’d get blood work whenever you cycle anything.

I got blood work my first time doing DNP back in 2014 and I had crashed t3 levels just like ever other person that has every taken DNP.

This isn’t breaking news. Considering this is one of the only forums that allows DNP talk… you’d think it would be known on here by now.
 

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Just to drop a random note in there (as I dont have bloods to back it up) but adding 50mcg of T3 to my DNP runs greatly reduces my fatigue compared to DNP only.

Of course, that's also on at least TRT or TRT+
 

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The original research by concilitor who was the dnp guru years ago showed there was an slowing of fat loss after 2 or 3 weeks at a given dose. The fix was to increase the dose by 75mg which resumed the weight loss. The original cutting and tainter from the 30s.

Another alternative, if you don't want to increase the dose, is to take a week off.

I suggested this a few days ago, I like to run 4-5 weeks and then I'll take a week off.
 

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