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Not sure if this is the right forum, oh well
I want to take a moment and discuss HCG. I always see alot of threads talking about using hcg during a cycle and to "keep the nuts large". IMO this is absolutely retarded or Im the retard lol. My argument stands as this:
Hcg use on cycle cannot be measured. There is no blood test known to man kind that will measure how much natural testosterone is being produced while your injecting exogenous testosterone. While using hcg, even off cycle, your lh signal usually reads .1 on a blood test. This is because hcg is suppressive. So while on a cycle how would you ever know how much hcg you should be using to produce enough natural testosterone to be beneficial and to justify its use? This is where guys always say that they can tell its working when their nuts are large. This in itself is a myth. There is no correlation between the size of ones testicles to the amount of testosterone they are producing. Yes hcg sends an lh signal to the testicles and therefore the testicles grow and seem to be operating, however, just because the testicles are larger does not mean that they are pumping out natural testosterone or pumping out normal amounts. I dont believe that testicular atrophy is harmful. Testicles have no bearing on recovery of the hpta. The hpta recovery is based on the lh and fsh signals being replenished. The testicles only produce testosterone. So if the lh signal returns to normal then the testicles, in theory, shall accept the signal and start testosterone production. There are even theories out there that suggest testicular atrophy, in essence, would provide healthier testicles versus testicles that are continuously producing test as they get a little breather if you will. A break from the grind of constantly making testosterone.
The use of hcg post cycle but pre pct, to me, is extremely beneficial if used at the proper time. I see guys left and right starting their serm therapy way to early, earlier then their supraphysiologic testosterone levels will allow the serm to work.
so these are my opinions based on my experience and research....what do you guys think?
I want to take a moment and discuss HCG. I always see alot of threads talking about using hcg during a cycle and to "keep the nuts large". IMO this is absolutely retarded or Im the retard lol. My argument stands as this:
Hcg use on cycle cannot be measured. There is no blood test known to man kind that will measure how much natural testosterone is being produced while your injecting exogenous testosterone. While using hcg, even off cycle, your lh signal usually reads .1 on a blood test. This is because hcg is suppressive. So while on a cycle how would you ever know how much hcg you should be using to produce enough natural testosterone to be beneficial and to justify its use? This is where guys always say that they can tell its working when their nuts are large. This in itself is a myth. There is no correlation between the size of ones testicles to the amount of testosterone they are producing. Yes hcg sends an lh signal to the testicles and therefore the testicles grow and seem to be operating, however, just because the testicles are larger does not mean that they are pumping out natural testosterone or pumping out normal amounts. I dont believe that testicular atrophy is harmful. Testicles have no bearing on recovery of the hpta. The hpta recovery is based on the lh and fsh signals being replenished. The testicles only produce testosterone. So if the lh signal returns to normal then the testicles, in theory, shall accept the signal and start testosterone production. There are even theories out there that suggest testicular atrophy, in essence, would provide healthier testicles versus testicles that are continuously producing test as they get a little breather if you will. A break from the grind of constantly making testosterone.
The use of hcg post cycle but pre pct, to me, is extremely beneficial if used at the proper time. I see guys left and right starting their serm therapy way to early, earlier then their supraphysiologic testosterone levels will allow the serm to work.
so these are my opinions based on my experience and research....what do you guys think?