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I've been in the gym for many years, but am new to the concept of chemical enhancement. I've been researching the variety
of steroids, cycles, stacks, sources, support meds/supplements, PCT, etc.
It seems like one of the most common discussions I see on the various message boards is how to find a safe and reliable sources,
along with safe and reliable steroid products.
I get the feel that many of us newbies approaching steroids are looking to tap into the tightly-held secret list of reputable sources
that the veterans so closely guard. We assume that the veterans know without a doubt where to get the best and safest stuff,
but are often unwilling to simply post those sources in public forums.
As I have done my research, I have found many dozens of online steroid distributors with memberships, fancy websites, customer feedback,
etc. The products being sold are professionally packaged to look like they are true pharmaceutical-grade products, produced by pharmaceutical industry-recognized manufacturers, that might as well be sold at legitimate pharmacies. However, the overwhelming majority of these products are produced at an underground lab, where government and regulatory agencies are not present to inspect facilities, test for potency and safety, and ultimately sign off on the legitimacy of the contents of a steroid bottle. Therefore, we place our trust in the manufacturers that they are producing a clean and safe product in a hygienic and aseptic manner, and the contents of the product are as advertised without other drugs, contaminants, or harmful chemicals.
In the absence of having a regulatory body or government give the good-to-go stamp on an underground lab, we turn to message boards, youtube videos, and product review websites to see what our peers have safely purchased, safely received, used, liked, saw results, and most importantly..... did not suffer illness or injury from the product.
However, I have quickly learned that many websites, message boards, forums, product reviews, etc may not be entirely trusted. I came across one message board where most all sources seemed to be demonized, with the exception of one source that was highly touted as being "approved" by the site's admin and moderators. One might question whether that site, that source, and those admins/moderators were all working together to push one particular UGL's products (as that source really only had anabolic steroids produced by a single UGL). Many reviews will wildly contradict one another regarding a product, lab, or source. It is difficult to determine who to "trust" when reading reviews and things.
As I continued my search, I would stumble across a product or a UGL or a source that would receive incredible reviews, but upon investigating the subject on another forum/site/etc I would find reviews saying the whole source was a scam or the products were bunk etc.
Not once have I found a UGL, a source, or a product that does not boast superior reviews in some places, while suffering substantial criticism as being totally fake in others.
I'm left with the question of whether the secret list of UGL's, sources, and products that is guarded so tightly by the veterans even exists. Or, are the veterans doing the same thing I'm doing and having to sift through the shit to find the source that looks the most legit, even though it will inevitably have numerous critics out there who say otherwise. I feel like when/if I make my first online purchase, it will be a sort of leap of faith and a gamble that I will get a good and safe product, while not being scammed, not being arrested, not getting an injury or infection, and while enjoying the benefits of a legit and safe product.
Am I correct in assuming that the veteran steroid-users take this "leap of faith" as well each time they make a purchase, and that they don't have secret knowledge the rest of us so desperately seek, other than their own experiences with various sources and products?
I will list a few sources I have seen without stating positives or negatives, but just as examples of places that seem to have equal numbers of amazing reviews and horrible reviews.
These are just a few I have come across, in no particular order, and are chosen out of a long list basically at random. I assume I am breaking no rules just by listing them. They are easily located on many of these message boards.
roidmass
napsgear
euroking-gear
and many many many others
Ultimately, I am drawing a conclusion that there is no secret "perfect" source. There is no secret "perfect" UGL or product. Just like purchasing recreational street drugs that someone cooked up at home, you are taking a risk as to whether the product was cooked up in a dirty bathtub and is full of contaminants and will kill you, or whether it is legit pure and clean.
I am on TRT prior to all of this and I inject myself with Testosterone-C weekly. I see that those bottles come out of a legit pharmacy here in the states, and are produced by a legit manufacturer. However, I have not been able to find any sources that sell this caliber of product (guaranteed to be safe and clean and meets pharm manufacturer standards). I suppose maybe that sort of thing is just too hard to get any more, and so sources rely on UGL's only.
Am I on the right track here? Is this a reasonable assessment of the modern nature of obtaining steroids?
Anyway, thanks for reading. I invite any thoughts or feedback. I don't know if or when I will make a purchase, but I am just doing my best to educate myself and perform as much research as possible. So, this basically represents my findings to date!
Thanks
of steroids, cycles, stacks, sources, support meds/supplements, PCT, etc.
It seems like one of the most common discussions I see on the various message boards is how to find a safe and reliable sources,
along with safe and reliable steroid products.
I get the feel that many of us newbies approaching steroids are looking to tap into the tightly-held secret list of reputable sources
that the veterans so closely guard. We assume that the veterans know without a doubt where to get the best and safest stuff,
but are often unwilling to simply post those sources in public forums.
As I have done my research, I have found many dozens of online steroid distributors with memberships, fancy websites, customer feedback,
etc. The products being sold are professionally packaged to look like they are true pharmaceutical-grade products, produced by pharmaceutical industry-recognized manufacturers, that might as well be sold at legitimate pharmacies. However, the overwhelming majority of these products are produced at an underground lab, where government and regulatory agencies are not present to inspect facilities, test for potency and safety, and ultimately sign off on the legitimacy of the contents of a steroid bottle. Therefore, we place our trust in the manufacturers that they are producing a clean and safe product in a hygienic and aseptic manner, and the contents of the product are as advertised without other drugs, contaminants, or harmful chemicals.
In the absence of having a regulatory body or government give the good-to-go stamp on an underground lab, we turn to message boards, youtube videos, and product review websites to see what our peers have safely purchased, safely received, used, liked, saw results, and most importantly..... did not suffer illness or injury from the product.
However, I have quickly learned that many websites, message boards, forums, product reviews, etc may not be entirely trusted. I came across one message board where most all sources seemed to be demonized, with the exception of one source that was highly touted as being "approved" by the site's admin and moderators. One might question whether that site, that source, and those admins/moderators were all working together to push one particular UGL's products (as that source really only had anabolic steroids produced by a single UGL). Many reviews will wildly contradict one another regarding a product, lab, or source. It is difficult to determine who to "trust" when reading reviews and things.
As I continued my search, I would stumble across a product or a UGL or a source that would receive incredible reviews, but upon investigating the subject on another forum/site/etc I would find reviews saying the whole source was a scam or the products were bunk etc.
Not once have I found a UGL, a source, or a product that does not boast superior reviews in some places, while suffering substantial criticism as being totally fake in others.
I'm left with the question of whether the secret list of UGL's, sources, and products that is guarded so tightly by the veterans even exists. Or, are the veterans doing the same thing I'm doing and having to sift through the shit to find the source that looks the most legit, even though it will inevitably have numerous critics out there who say otherwise. I feel like when/if I make my first online purchase, it will be a sort of leap of faith and a gamble that I will get a good and safe product, while not being scammed, not being arrested, not getting an injury or infection, and while enjoying the benefits of a legit and safe product.
Am I correct in assuming that the veteran steroid-users take this "leap of faith" as well each time they make a purchase, and that they don't have secret knowledge the rest of us so desperately seek, other than their own experiences with various sources and products?
I will list a few sources I have seen without stating positives or negatives, but just as examples of places that seem to have equal numbers of amazing reviews and horrible reviews.
These are just a few I have come across, in no particular order, and are chosen out of a long list basically at random. I assume I am breaking no rules just by listing them. They are easily located on many of these message boards.
roidmass
napsgear
euroking-gear
and many many many others
Ultimately, I am drawing a conclusion that there is no secret "perfect" source. There is no secret "perfect" UGL or product. Just like purchasing recreational street drugs that someone cooked up at home, you are taking a risk as to whether the product was cooked up in a dirty bathtub and is full of contaminants and will kill you, or whether it is legit pure and clean.
I am on TRT prior to all of this and I inject myself with Testosterone-C weekly. I see that those bottles come out of a legit pharmacy here in the states, and are produced by a legit manufacturer. However, I have not been able to find any sources that sell this caliber of product (guaranteed to be safe and clean and meets pharm manufacturer standards). I suppose maybe that sort of thing is just too hard to get any more, and so sources rely on UGL's only.
Am I on the right track here? Is this a reasonable assessment of the modern nature of obtaining steroids?
Anyway, thanks for reading. I invite any thoughts or feedback. I don't know if or when I will make a purchase, but I am just doing my best to educate myself and perform as much research as possible. So, this basically represents my findings to date!
Thanks