how does my 2nd cycle look like,good or bad?

losieloos

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week 1-4 dbol 40mg ed
week 1-8 test e 500 a week
week 8-16 test e bump up to 700 a week
week 1-14 deca 400 a week

week 2-16 adex at .5 eod
week 1-16 caber at .5 eod
week 5-17 hcg 500x2 a week
Pct will be clomid might run some caber with it
So anything I should change, take away or add on? Thanks
 

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Why not just start the test at 700? Also, search the forum for scally's pct. You will prolly want to use it after a longish deca cycle.
 

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For a second cycle I wouldn't think you'd need to run the test at 700. Like Azog said really no need to adjust the test mid cycle. The normal deca cycle would be to run test 200mg above the deca. Id say just run the test at 600mg thru the cycle. Best of luck brother.
 

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600test - 400 deca. Same dosages throughout. Beef up that pct. Post 19 nor think 5-6weeks.
 

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Thanks for the response guys, for pct ill probably doo 5-6 weeks of clomid 100/100/100/100/50/50, as far as the dosage, one guy at my gym said up the dosage in the middle of the cycle so I can keep the ball rolling.
 
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Keeping the ball rolling is about EATING more than when you first started because your maintenance calories are going to be higher than when you started and you obviously need to be much higher than maintenance calories to grow.

700mg of test is still wayy more than your body could ever produce so it all comes down to your diet to keep growing.
 

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Losie:) alot of great advice was said, caber should be ran e3d so that's twice a week. Remember diet plays the most important role. Everything starts in the kitchen the juice is the frosting on the cake:p
 

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Mmmmmmmm did somebody say frosting?
 

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Losie:) alot of great advice was said, caber should be ran e3d so that's twice a week. Remember diet plays the most important role. Everything starts in the kitchen the juice is the frosting on the cake:p

Well said sir. Well said.

Diet is 110% without proper nutrition - at best, you'll see minimal gains. And worst, no real gains at all - just a temporary illusion
 

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i would just do tes/d bol.
 

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Yes thanks guys, this will be it.
Test 16 weeks at 700
Deca14 weeks at 500
Dbol 5-6 weeks at 40mg
Caber and dex during
Hcg will be used
Pct clomid
 

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I got this diet down I fucking own this bitch.
 

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damn sam nice avi !
 

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you dont need 3 compounds man. its your 2nd run. shit even just test would give great gains.
 

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you dont need 3 compounds man. its your 2nd run. shit even just test would give great gains.

Not only that but u said something about high school 3 years ago, what are you 21?
 

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:-? If ur 21 then I will tell u to hold ur horses bud. At that age I'll say a whey protien , creatine and lift ur ass off.
 

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you dont need 3 compounds man. its your 2nd run. shit even just test would give great gains.

AGREED 100%
if youve allready cycled before then its to late to talk about that but it is more gear than you need for a 2nd cycle.drop deca or dbol and moderate your doses , YOU JUST DONT NEED THAT MUCH TO GROW.
 

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damn sam nice avi !

don't be lookin at my wife bro haha j/k




Dawg is 100% correct. I would just save the deca for your 3rd cycle. It's kind of a waste bro
 

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Beating on a dead horse.. But a safer stepup
First cycle = one product
Second cycle = add an oral
Third cycle = stack

And your gym guy is an asshole, and if he's tellig u to up dosage mid cycle he just wants to sell more product. (More FOOD = more gains)
And I would add nolva with that clomid that's a very supressive aggressive cycle
And I ain't honestly give proper advice not knowing stats... Someone said your 21? Weight?
 

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