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    Learning how to homebrew

    sup bros,
    literally just started doing research on homebrewing today,
    does anyone have good specific site/article on this to start off with....
    im jumping around forums/threads/post/articles looking for info and writting shxt down but everyone has their own way on doing this, being a noob i have no idea what's right, wrong, or necessary...
    where would be a good "start" for me


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    This is what i have to start
    Im only concerned in making, Test C, Tren E, Primo, and Var

    to make Test C, Tren E, or Primo at [email protected]/mL
    10g powder
    17.5mL Ethyl Oleate
    16mL GSO
    1.5mL BA (3%)
    7.5mL BB (15%)

    Melting Points- good for knowing quality/purity of raws
    Turinabol= 225-230c
    Test C= 98-102c
    Anavar= 235-238c
    Primo= 164-165c
    Tren E= 72-78c

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    From the mouth of a master brewer to my ears:

    "I never use EO, and never will"

    "Don't follow online recipes as they repeat the same mistakes over and over again"


    No need for 3% BA and also the amount of oil you use will vary depending on the displacement of the powder in liquid. These aren't static, different compounds/powders displace different volumes in liquid.
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    Nothing wrong with EO just don't use it as a 100% carrier it's too expensive lol.

    I hear boo hoo about EO form people but they don't complain about the gear they are running that has EO in it lol.

    In many years I have yet seen anyone complain of a allergic reaction to EO from gear they run that I know has EO in it.

    IMO I think all the scare from EO comes from years back with sources that couldn't get great quality EO and trust me the quality matters with EO even if your filtering it. Great quality EO is easy to get these days.

    Think about it year back old school thinking wasn't what it is today, shitty EO and thinking 45um filters are all you need which is a crock of shit 22um is by far superior. Filter filthy Tren with a 45um and inject all that left over garbage, no thanks!
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    I was simply quoting what I was told but currently I can only find FDA approval for ethyl oleate as a food additive for ingestion not injection. If you look at ehtyl oleate's MSDS it's listed as an irritant to the skin, eyes, and if inhaled. There are plenty of anecdotal reports online about it's ability to cause an allergic reaction and how it can eat rubber or plastics if stored for too long in them. I personally choose to avoid EO but others like it.

    Edit* I've put in a query to a pharmacist and a doctor to see if it has any pharmacological or medical uses.
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    Supplies
    Sterile Sealed Vials (50mL jugs)
    Syringes (3, 20, & 50cc)
    Glass Media Jar (250 or 500mL)
    Glass Beaker (250 & 500mL)
    Graduated Cylinder (10, 50, 100mL)
    Spray Bottle
    IA
    BB
    BA
    GSO
    Caulk Gun (for syringe filtration)
    .22 Filter (for final product)
    .45 Filter (for GSO)

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    You could probably get away without a glass media jar since you're not using a bottle top filter setup and plan on putting the brew in vials. You don't need to filter your GSO with a .45um filter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Docd187123 View Post
    I was simply quoting what I was told but currently I can only find FDA approval for ethyl oleate as a food additive for ingestion not injection. If you look at ehtyl oleate's MSDS it's listed as an irritant to the skin, eyes, and if inhaled. There are plenty of anecdotal reports online about it's ability to cause an allergic reaction and how it can eat rubber or plastics if stored for too long in them. I personally choose to avoid EO but others like it.

    Edit* I've put in a query to a pharmacist and a doctor to see if it has any pharmacological or medical uses.
    Dude just leave it alone your going to spook people, if a person knows how to brew they know how to use it just as well Guaiacol which is worse IMO and the other solvents used.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Docd187123 View Post
    You could probably get away without a glass media jar since you're not using a bottle top filter setup and plan on putting the brew in vials. You don't need to filter your GSO with a .45um filter.
    couldn't edit it out, trying to jot down notes here so i could reference later and not have random papers lying around...
    so i just need to filter the final product pretty much? not the GSO individually...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TriniJuice View Post
    couldn't edit it out, trying to jot down notes here so i could reference later and not have random papers lying around...
    so i just need to filter the final product pretty much? not the GSO individually...
    Correct, filter final product only.

    The powder will be dirty so to sterilize and filter anything used prior to final product is a waste of time.

    Use a 22um never a 45um.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TriniJuice View Post
    couldn't edit it out, trying to jot down notes here so i could reference later and not have random papers lying around...
    so i just need to filter the final product pretty much? not the GSO individually...
    Like SFG said, if you filter the GSO and make it 'sterile' what happens when you mix 'unsterile' powder, bacteriostatic agent, and solvent? It becomes unsterile.
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