Learning how to homebrew

[TriniJuice]

Sup bro's
Gonna be trying this "Liquid Oral Suspension" thing for the 1st time and need some guidance.

I've done the 151 thing in past but have come across this Ora-Blend concoction and figure to go for it

Here's a good formula i found

HERE IS THE EQUATION FOR FIGURING OUT UR TOTAL ML,S NEEDED TO BUILD ANY RECIPE FOR BREWING ORALS...

1,000 X ( THE AMOUNT OF GRAMS THT U HAVE ) ( EXAMPLE 1,0OO X 10 GRAMS = 10,000 MGS ----- DIVIDE THE 10,000 BY THE AMOUNT OF MG/ML THT YOU WANT TO BREW .... 50MG/ML )

( EXAMPLE ) 10,000 DIVIDED BY 50MG = 200 ML

NOW TAKE THT NUMBER (200ML) AND SUBTRACT 10 FORM IT ( OR THE AMOUNT OF GRAMS THT UR USING ) = 190 TOTAL ML THT WILL BE NEEDED FOR A 10 GRAM BREW @ 50MG/ML ..

NOTE : FIND THE DISPLACEMENT PER ML FOR ANADROL ( DISPLACES AT 0.996 PER ML WHILE IN SOLVENTS ) ,, DONT FORGET TO SUBTRACT THE TOTAL DISPLACEMENT FOR THE BREW BEFORE U FIND UR TOTAL ICING... OR CARRIER RATIO EXAMPLE 0.996 X 10 = 9.96 ML ------ SUBTRACT THT NUMBER BY THE TOTAL AMOUNT VOLUME OF ML -- WHICH IS 190... 190 - 9.96 = 180 ML FOR UR CARRIER ...

THIS WILL GIVE U A STRONGER DOSE PER ML,,, AND IF U WANT TO OVER DOES UR MG/ML ADD 5 MORE GRAMS TO EVERY 50 GRAMS BREWED...

So here's where I'm at;

1,000 * 5g (drol) = 5,000mgs

5,000mgs ÷ 100mg/mL = 50mL

50mL - 5gs = 45mL (Suspension Volume)

45mL - 10mL = 35mL (Ora-Blend needed)

So what do you guys think about this method?

Is subtracting those extra 10mL for the displacement volume needed/worth it?


Also....I'm going to be using a flavor agent (LorANN Oils) do i need to figure out the displacement volume for this aswell?

 

[Flyingdragon]

"THIS WILL GIVE U A STRONGER DOSE PER ML,,, AND IF U WANT TO OVER DOES UR MG/ML ADD 5 MORE GRAMS TO EVERY 50 GRAMS BREWED..."

Is your goal to make it at the correct dose or not? Because the guy who wrote the article believes in overdosing.....

 

[Bro Bundy]

trini is a master microwave brewer

 

[TriniJuice]

"THIS WILL GIVE U A STRONGER DOSE PER ML,,, AND IF U WANT TO OVER DOES UR MG/ML ADD 5 MORE GRAMS TO EVERY 50 GRAMS BREWED..."

Is your goal to make it at the correct dose or not? Because the guy who wrote the article believes in overdosing.....

yea he seems to love overdosing haha
I just wasnt sure about subtracting it......guess not

 

[TriniJuice]

trini is a master microwave brewer

Best in the entire hood :32 (17):

 

[STEVEO]

confused with the term home brewing? is that not refered to as brewing beer lol..

 

[STEVEO]

finding raws i can tell u that aint easy, recently a fried of mine was waiting for clen came back bunk to shit.. cant trust anyone these days, best is always to get on the bag wagon and go to the source directly..

 

[STEVEO]

trini is a master microwave brewer

trini the specialist hahaha

 

[JuiceTrain]

Juicey Memoirs

 

[JuiceTrain]

anyone knows a good "Recipe Calculator" site
I'm guessing they shut down Bass Killer cuz it wont load on my comp or my phone.

I found a replacement site, but it wont allow me to change the BA/BA ratio from 2/20

 

[denicnut]

Supplies
Sterile Sealed Vials (50mL jugs)
Syringes (3, 20, & 50cc)
Glass Media Jar (250 or 500mL)
Glass Beaker (250 & 500mL)
Graduated Cylinder (10, 50, 100mL)
Spray Bottle
IA
BB
BA
GSO
Caulk Gun (for syringe filtration)
.22 Filter (for final product)
.45 Filter (for GSO)

if youre syringes filtering make sure you get good whatman 22um filters not the bullshit kind! very good BA and know melting point of each compound! dont try to make crazy strong or blends gear initially and stick to minimal amounts of ba/bb to hold your gear! important also get sterile vials because one you filter thats your last chance to keep your gear safe/clean! start with small batches of test enth i did some prop too and write everything out even though the math is basic so you can adjust next batch bc i like to fill each vials to 10.2-10.3ml

 

[JuiceTrain]

if youre syringes filtering make sure you get good whatman 22um filters not the bullshit kind! very good BA and know melting point of each compound! dont try to make crazy strong or blends gear initially and stick to minimal amounts of ba/bb to hold your gear! important also get sterile vials because one you filter thats your last chance to keep your gear safe/clean! start with small batches of test enth i did some prop too and write everything out even though the math is basic so you can adjust next batch bc i like to fill each vials to 10.2-10.3ml

Solid info for the beginners

 

[JuiceTrain]

-Repaste-

Firstly you need your capping machine.
The 2 most popular are:
Cap'M'quick (50 caps)
The capping machine (24 caps)

I own both and in my opinion the Cap'm'quick is the better of the 2.

Next you need some good scales
I use some that do 0.001g but 0.01g is good enough for the job.

The next factor needed to be decided upon is what to use as filler.
Some use protein some glutamine,creatine etc
Some people use dextrose, I wouldn't personally use this as its a simple sugar that's all and I don't want to consume excess simple carbs in my diet. No other reason.

Ok now to start capping.
Weigh your empty cap and write this down.

(I have all my weights written on my capper in permanent marker for ease of reference)

Firstly fill and tamp down 1 cap full with your chosen filler.

Now weight this on the scales and write it down.

EXAMPLE:
1 x "00" capsule weighs 0.1g
1 x "00" capsule filled with creatine weighs 0.5g
Write these figures down.


Now we need to know what were capping and the quantity.

If your using THE CAPPING MACHINE (TCM) your going to do batches of 24 at a time
Or
Cap'M'Quick (CMQ) batches or 50 a time

So if you wanted to make
50caps of anadrol @ 50mg each (Capsule Machine) you would multiply
0.05 x 50 = 2.5g raw anadrol

Now filler weight (Using creatine)
50 x 0.1 = 5g (empty capsule weight)
50 x 0.6 = 30g (cap w/filler)

Subtract the capsule weight from cap w/filler (creatine)

30g - 5g = 25g filler weight

Now subtract raw materials from filler weight

25g - 2.5g = 22.5g EXACT filler weight

So now we know we need the following
22.5g filler (creatine)
2.5g raw oxymethelone

Weigh out and add the Filler and Hormone Podwer (ex. Anadrol) to a zip lock bag and shake them very thoroughly

If you want to be certain on a accurate mix you can subtract 1-2g filler weight (ex. creatine) and replace with raw powder (ex. Anadrol) before mixing;
Once added to the filler keep shaking the bag until thoroughly mixed.

OR

Mix filler and hormone using a mortar & pestle (TJ's preferred choice)

Fill the caps in the machine with your mix and tamp down and cap.

 

[almostgone]

The only thing I would add is mixing the active ingredient and the filler via geometric dilution will give a better blend. Also, if you're going below 10mg, make it a suspension instead of capping it.

 

[almostgone]

In my last post above, I should have stated geometric dilution via trituration.

 

[JuiceTrain]

In my last post above, I should have stated geometric dilution via trituration.

Yea I'm definitely gonna have to Google that cuz...
🫨.... lol

 

[almostgone]

LMAO. It's just a term that means you take a small portion of your active ingredient with appropriate ratio of filler and mix it in a mortar and pestle. Larger, rinse and repeat while maintaining your active ingredient to filler ratio until it is all mixed. It helps ensure a better blend since variation in the granularity of the active ingredient can affect the consistency of shaking the two together in a plastic bag.

For those that choose to mix in Ziploc baggies, don't cheap out on the baggies. There's nothing like seeing your project leaking out into the air while you play shake and bake. I would spend the extra for name brand bags. Plus the cheaper bags seem to hold static easier which leads to cutting the bag open and trying to lick the baggie clean. I mean, no one wants to waste any of their medicine.

If anyone decides to go to the mortar and pestle method, I strongly encourage an agate mortar and pestle.

 

[JuiceTrain]

LMAO. It's just a term that means you take a small portion of your active ingredient with appropriate ratio of filler and mix it in a mortar and pestle.

If anyone decides to go to the mortar and pestle method, I strongly encourage an agate mortar and pestle.

Blue text- gotcha, never knew there was a scientific term for that

Red- What's the benefit of getting an agate m/p vs something similar like quartz or a cheaper material like ceramic

 

[almostgone]

Blue text- gotcha, never knew there was a scientific term for that

Red- What's the benefit of getting an agate m/p vs something similar like quartz or a cheaper material like ceramic

I like agate because I've never had an issue with the surfaces getting scratched and contaminating my projects. It is pretty dang hard.
Ceramic is supposed to be a good material providing there was no porosity when it was green and then it was properly fired.

I think the quartz mortar and pestle sets are good provided it's synthetic. They can control the surface finish of synthetic quartz so you don't loose your powder in any scratches or irregularities.

I'll file a disclaimer here and say I'm not a master chemist or anything. This is just how I was taught.

 

[JuiceTrain]

Looking for opinions on something....

So I was gonna start to cap some 10mg Cialis pills for daily intake...

I was using a size 00 for some other supps but 44g of filler & 1g of Cialis doesn't seem like it would give me a properly homogenized mixture lol

So my question is, would getting a size 3 machine/caps be a better option or should I just say fuxk it and turn it into a suspension?

A suspension would be the most feasible option since it's such a low mg dosage & size 3caps seem like they'd just be a bxtch to deal with but I wanted to hear some opinions....