2 grams of testosterone

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1g feels great once you can keep your estro under control;
When i 1st started cycling I need adex for estro but over the years using it seemed detrimental for me (low e2 feeling) once i stopped taking it than that Gram test really shined for me
 

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Still kept some adex on hand but only took some when i felt the need to
 
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After reading every single post I must say this is the best information (however hypothetical to my own goals) I've ever read from start to finish on a forum regarding gear! Loved this s***
 

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One meal a day.
That's messed up.
How can anabolic promote nitrogen retention if you're not taking in adequate protein?
Before i ever took anything, I was eating 6-7 meals per day.

Yes; I'd be bigger if I would've eaten more than 1 meal a day since December.

Have on average 1,200-1,500cals daily since December..

Now that all the chaos in my life has FINALLY stopped, I can eat more.
 
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Do u compete or ever want to compete? If not then 3 gs a week is kind of ridiculous. Not being a Dick wither but with consistently running that much gear I would expect you to be alot bigger.

And just because bloods come back in reasonable ranges does not mean your "healthy".
I was thinking the same thing, I stoped competing 3 years ago but have done 6 shows, It took 3 weeks for me to even feel the test E or cyp I was taking, and only then I would notice my strength going up.
 
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This thread had a lot of good information. Good to hear so many guys talking caution. Super easy for rookies to start with competition cycles and get themselves into trouble. The pioneers of this stuff were all basically labrats too so credit to hulk for continuing the tradition, no thanks for my body though. Thanks for all the insight and experience fellas.
 
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I have ran Tren A @80mg ED and Tren E at 800mg/wk. (When I was experimenting)
Only side effect was Trensomnia. Waking up multiple times during the night. Pretty much counter productive.
Ran with 420mg Test E. Lower test dosage got rid of shoulder acne that started to happen. White bumps from excess sebum production. Dropping my Test from 800mg totally got rid of that in two weeks or so. I do not run Tren high like that anymore. Did it as an experiment.

So far for gaining size and constant pumps and energy... Higher Testosterone!
Currently on last 6 weeks... (12 weeks blast with a frontload of 3 weeks) (15weeks total)
360mg Test E EOD
150mg Deca EOD
25mg Tren A ED added last 8 weeks.
12.5mg Aromasin ED
10mg Cialis ED.

Pretty much where I want to be after this blast.
Future blast all compunds below 500mg.
 
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Why isn't the OP still on here? I've read some of his stuff, kind of wish he was still posting.
 
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I get a lot of PMs concerning my dosages/beliefs/etc. I still advise everyone to start with 500mg Test E/week as their first, and go up from there. I also believe the fewer the compounds, the better (no reason to run more than 2 compounds at a time if you're not competing). DON'T DO WHAT I DO!

Well, I got this PM and thought it would be entertaining to post it:



Yes, I believe cycling on/off is a waste and you are going 2 steps forward, 1 step back-HOWEVER, my goals come first; health/natty test levels second.

Being on indefinitely has helped me to realize that gains ARE SLOW (it still takes years for even pros to make huge changes) and that calories become the only number that matters for physique composition.

Being on 2g or even 3g of Test E, you feel like superman. Your libido is like a teenager. At 3g, I got night sweats like tren-although much milder.

Thanks to Swiper and other folks opening my eyes to how much competitors really run, I'll never go below a gram of test e again.

I ONLY run Test E. For blasts, I do 2g Test E. My last blast, I did 2g Test E, 1g Deca. I'll just stick to test only; the added gains (besides joint comfort) were negligible.

The only time I went over a gram of test I got terrible bacne like every inch had a huge zit but I felt like a beast
 

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IDK how any of you tolerate the sides. Past 1200 mg Im a fa king nut job.
 

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One meal a day.
That's messed up.
How can anabolic promote nitrogen retention if you're not taking in adequate protein?
Before i ever took anything, I was eating 6-7 meals per day.

Because biology is not linear. You have myostatin, FOX0, cAMP, etc forever to affect muscle growth.

Hell, myostatin gets increased from high protein intake:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4281872/

Higher protein=less muscle.

BUT that's one study. Don't go wild throwing tubs of powder and meat away. Just dont be a sucker and eat excessive protein. Felt this was a fun way to share more knowledge.

Ya'll can always count on me to flip your beliefs on their heads.
 

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one great thread from some great times. It should have ended then and left alone as a classic
 

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i think u should try 3 g..Its a new day here a SI..The big dose era
 
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