BitterStrength tren log

Cobra Strike

Elite
SI Founding Member
Joined
Apr 10, 2012
Messages
2,605
Reaction score
1,683
Points
113
Lol well there is more of a chance of getting it than not now that you have gotten it or you could jave had full on tren cough and thought it was mild.
 
Last edited:

bitterStrength

Senior Member
Joined
Sep 17, 2014
Messages
104
Reaction score
5
Points
0
Okay guys I need your help. This is in regard to estrogen sides. Seems like everything I read, you get the same sides if your estrogen is high as you do if it's low. My first two test only cycles was smooth sailing. I took .25 m/w/f and was happy as a clam the whole time. Things are different now that I'm on 450mg of tren.

The last three days I've been tired, kinda of depressed, low sex drive but still get good erections and morning wood. Irritated and moody. I have NO itchy ness or sensitive nipples at all.

So is my estrogen too low or too high?
 

Cobra Strike

Elite
SI Founding Member
Joined
Apr 10, 2012
Messages
2,605
Reaction score
1,683
Points
113
Its probably not to low if your taking the same dose with your ai as you were taking when you felt good. Tren doesnt convert to estrogen but it will help facilitate test to create more estrogen. If I had to guess your estro is climbing but the only way to know is to stay on that same dosage you were when feeling good then go get it tested. Then increase your anti e...get it tested again to see what effect it had on you. Or switch to a different anti e. Its a guessing game without blood work

On tren you have to keep control of your estrogen if you dont want to have prolactin sides. The main identifier of prolactin for me is how difficult it is to reach orgasm...thats when i know I have a prolactin problem. Cause my baseline time to orgasm is normally 30 seconds...2 monutes is way to long to wait lol
 

bitterStrength

Senior Member
Joined
Sep 17, 2014
Messages
104
Reaction score
5
Points
0
so last night in the middle of sex, bang dick goes limp. like a damn noodle. WTF! Its never happened to me in my life!!

where do you guys get your blood work done? Is there a cheap clinic besides going to the doctor and requesting it?
 

shenky

Senior Member
Joined
Nov 20, 2013
Messages
1,010
Reaction score
209
Points
0
Okay guys I need your help. This is in regard to estrogen sides. Seems like everything I read, you get the same sides if your estrogen is high as you do if it's low. My first two test only cycles was smooth sailing. I took .25 m/w/f and was happy as a clam the whole time. Things are different now that I'm on 450mg of tren.

The last three days I've been tired, kinda of depressed, low sex drive but still get good erections and morning wood. Irritated and moody. I have NO itchy ness or sensitive nipples at all.

So is my estrogen too low or too high?

Sounds like it's just the tren and not your e2. Bloodwork is literally the only way to know, otherwise we are guessing.
 

bitterStrength

Senior Member
Joined
Sep 17, 2014
Messages
104
Reaction score
5
Points
0
So I plan on getting bloodwork done by the end of this week. Ive also started taking MAST and plan on running it at 400mg/week.

The limp noodle problem is still present. From what ive read this seems to be a prolactin issue caused by the tren. I'm thinking of stopping the tren for a week or two.

How long does it take for prolactin level to go down after stopping Tren Ace? Im running it at 450mg/week. Should I just reduce it instead of stopping?
 

bitterStrength

Senior Member
Joined
Sep 17, 2014
Messages
104
Reaction score
5
Points
0
oh and I started taking

Vitamin B6, E, Zinc, and ginseng extract

seems this can be a natural way to lower prolactin. its only been 2 days so far and haven't seen a difference. time will tell I guess.
 

bitterStrength

Senior Member
Joined
Sep 17, 2014
Messages
104
Reaction score
5
Points
0
one more thing.

So Caber is super expensive and it seems the chances of getting ripped off is pretty high.

Ive seen a few research peptide companies selling liquid caber. I thought caber wasn't stable in liquid form. Plus the price makes me question if its real or not

does anyone have any experience with liquid caber peptides?
 

Bro Bundy

Elite
SI Founding Member
Joined
Apr 11, 2012
Messages
18,882
Reaction score
15,869
Points
383
yup tren will kill the pp..I only trust pharma products these days bro..If money is no biggie buy what u can from a few spots..I wish i could help more but i havent used research in a while ,,just dont trust it
 

Bro Bundy

Elite
SI Founding Member
Joined
Apr 11, 2012
Messages
18,882
Reaction score
15,869
Points
383
always have cialis or viagra on hand
 

Bama78

Senior Member
Joined
Dec 1, 2014
Messages
144
Reaction score
21
Points
0
There are a few spots to get caber cheaper than the norm. I have had some bad experiences with research very untrustworthy but a couple places i go to now I would use any day of the week.
 

Cobra Strike

Elite
SI Founding Member
Joined
Apr 10, 2012
Messages
2,605
Reaction score
1,683
Points
113
Hey bitter....are you using research chem anti estrogen now? If so I would say its bunk. Have you got any blood work done to see where your estro levels are? You most likely do not have to buy caber if you can get some good aromasin
 

bitterStrength

Senior Member
Joined
Sep 17, 2014
Messages
104
Reaction score
5
Points
0
I'm using arimidex that's pharm grade from Peru. I also have some US pharm grade arimedex. Wish I had a way to get some pharm grade aromasin. any suggestions?

I didn't do my blood work yet. I was planning on doing it last week but my schedule didn't permit it. I have a appt with my doctor this Wednesday and I plan on requesting the blood work. Guess I'm going to come clean about using gear, I know he wont agree with my use but I just hope he isn't a dick about it.

Other then that im still suffering. My dick gets hard just fine but its really hard to have an orgasm and when I do its very weak. I did go limp while I was getting a blow job and my wife got all pissed off. oh yeah, I kinda came clean with my wife. Well I told her I was doing TEST but didn't tell her about the tren or mast. ANyway , im not having any gyno symptoms at all. Im starting to think my problem is from either just the Tren or I dropped my estrogen too low. Hopefully the blood work results wont take to long after I get it done. I also took a 50mg Viagra ( well generic from peru) and it worked great. Hard as a rock and very strong orgasm. Is that any evidence that my problem might be just the tren and not my blood levels?
 

jSalud

Elite
Joined
Aug 15, 2014
Messages
268
Reaction score
51
Points
0
I'm using arimidex that's pharm grade from Peru. I also have some US pharm grade arimedex. Wish I had a way to get some pharm grade aromasin. any suggestions?

I didn't do my blood work yet. I was planning on doing it last week but my schedule didn't permit it. I have a appt with my doctor this Wednesday and I plan on requesting the blood work. Guess I'm going to come clean about using gear, I know he wont agree with my use but I just hope he isn't a dick about it.

Other then that im still suffering. My dick gets hard just fine but its really hard to have an orgasm and when I do its very weak. I did go limp while I was getting a blow job and my wife got all pissed off. oh yeah, I kinda came clean with my wife. Well I told her I was doing TEST but didn't tell her about the tren or mast. ANyway , im not having any gyno symptoms at all. Im starting to think my problem is from either just the Tren or I dropped my estrogen too low. Hopefully the blood work results wont take to long after I get it done. I also took a 50mg Viagra ( well generic from peru) and it worked great. Hard as a rock and very strong orgasm. Is that any evidence that my problem might be just the tren and not my blood levels?

Sounds like a prolactin/progesterone issue. Caber/Prami if needed per bloodwork results. Other than that I always keep Cialis on hand. Good luck man.
 

bitterStrength

Senior Member
Joined
Sep 17, 2014
Messages
104
Reaction score
5
Points
0
I went to my doctor today. Didn't have the balls to tell him about my gear use. Honestly I really didn't want it in my file. So I just told him I was having erectile issues and wanted some blood work done. So I'm getting my testosterone , prostate levels, thyroid function, prolactin ( but not not estrogen, he said it wasn't necessary and no matter what I said he wouldn't put it on the order), full lipid panel, and a couple others I can't remember. At least I'm getting my prolactin numbers since that's what I'm most worried about at the moment.

The crappy thing is, I'm usually able to log onto the sitter website and see my results but only after the doctor releases them. He said he won't releases them until he reviews the results and we talk in person. I think he knows something is up. And when he sees that my Test level are way above normal then he's going to know for sure. He's kind of a dick. I need a new Dr.

Other that, I lowered my tren from 450 to 300 a week and have been taking HCG at 500 a week. The limp noodle problem seems to Be getting better. I had sex last night and managed to stay hard the whole time. It was kinda hard to cum and when I did it was weak.

So far my overall cycle results are good. I'm only up about 11 lbs but have lost a decent amount of fat. My diet hasn't been the best the last two weeks which I'm kinda mad at myself about. But I am happy. I really want to keep this cycle going. Hopefully my blood work will allow it!!

Thanks for your support guys.
 

Cobra Strike

Elite
SI Founding Member
Joined
Apr 10, 2012
Messages
2,605
Reaction score
1,683
Points
113
Your first mistake was going to your doc for the blood work especially since he is a dick. Not only will your test levels be through the roof your cholesterol will be ****ed and you will have a ****ed up prostate panel. Now your going to have to come clean or just never talk to him again. Bro you should use private md labs for your blood work so you dont have to go through a doc. You need your estrogen checked. You basically got almost everything checked besides what you needed to fix your sex problem. Im leaning much more to elevated estrogen levels than crashed levels. Adex rarely crashes estrogen as it only binds to estrogen for 48 hours then releases it back to its active state. You might be experiencing estro rebound from the adex. I get my adex straight from a doctor and i had estro levels at 800+ while taking 1mg per day. I would get your hands on some aromasin even if all you can get is research chem stuff. Also get some prami. Caber is often faked among research chem sites.
 
Last edited:

bitterStrength

Senior Member
Joined
Sep 17, 2014
Messages
104
Reaction score
5
Points
0
Cobra your right. So I pretty much said screw it and tried to get the labs myself. So I looked up the closest place from privatmdlabs and went there just to find out that they closed up shop. So I went to the next closest place and it was Labcorp. Apparently PrivateMdLabs was bought out by Labcorp. When I went in and tried to get the test done they said I need a doctors request. I explained to them and even showed them the website on phone and they said they never heard of anyone getting labs done without a doctors request. This is BS! Maybe I just need to order and pay for the damn tests then go there. This is irritating as hell!!
Ether by doctor should get the results from my bloodworm on Monday. Hopefully he releases them on the website so I can see them without the need to see him. Maybe he will post them if I make some bullshit story how I'll be out of the country for a few months. It might work since he knows I travel.

So I'm on a mission to get some caber. I really nervous about buying some kind of peptide since I'm pretty sure it will be crap. Anyone buy online from overseas? aura pharmaceutical specialties?
 

trodizzle

Elite
Joined
Feb 5, 2014
Messages
2,313
Reaction score
1,588
Points
113
With private md you order your own test on the website. Then print out the from it gives you. Then take that in to lab orp. Then in a couple days you get your results.
 

New Threads

Top