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    hows my method look?

    so after many nights sat in front of my screen researching i think i know enough to give it a go. ill start with test E and hopefully move on to EQ, Deca and Tren A. how does this sound?

    Test E powder: 20g
    GSO: 47ml
    BA: 1.6ml
    BB: 14.4ml



    (Is a 18%BB 2% BA ratio good?)

    Method:

    Vial sterilisation: ill be using uncapped vials that i have left over from a previous experiment. Media container and beakers will use the same method
    1. wash with lab detergent
    2. rinse several times with water
    3. final rinse with distilled water
    4. bake in the oven at 500deg F for 2hrs

    Septum sterilisation:
    1. rinse in hydrogen peroxide
    QUESTION: is that enough? any particular strength of peroxide?
    OR should i rise with isopropyl alcohol for 10-15min then put in the oven at 180deg F until dry

    Cooking method:
    1. measure out 20g of powder using electric scales
    2. add powder to beaker containing oil and solvents
    3. stir
    4. warm beaker in a pan of water until solution becomes clear
    5. let solution cool
    6. filter through .22um bottle top filter and into a glass media container
    7. transfer from media container to vials
    8. put in septa
    9. cap and crimp
    10. pressure cook at 15psi for 1-2hrs

    Obviously my main concern is sterility, so have i missed anything? ill be wearing medical gloves and changing them when appropriate and will steralise the room as best as possible with alcohol and keep windows and doors closed. i am also familiar with aseptic technique from uni so ill be employing that at all times.

    thanks for any help bros

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    You don't "need" bb with test enan. Septa?

    I won't comment on your method, but I do want to ask why pressure cook your capped vials?

    Oh, one more question...this is for personal use, correct?
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    Septa os the rubber stopper in the top of the vials
    and yes personal use only, pre made shit is just too expensive here
    Last edited by bvs; 07-13-2015 at 06:19 AM.

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    You can leave out the cooking of the septa at 180...that wint sterilize anything.

    Also leave out pressure cooking...the gear is already sterilized after its filtered.

    Heat the bb/ba/powder until its clear...stir it alot. Then after it cools a little add the oil and reheat to about 80-90c. I would use bb if I were you or your most likely going to be dealing with crashed gear and for your first run this isnt a problem you want.

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    Oh and dont put water in the pot...just set the beaker on the burner. Im not sure where the "heat in water" thing ever came from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobra Strike View Post
    Oh and dont put water in the pot...just set the beaker on the burner. Im not sure where the "heat in water" thing ever came from.
    I never have only because I don't want moisture anywhere near my brownies.
    "Overzealous dosing" -Jin

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    Also in my process I melt the powder down then add ba/BB and then fill with oil to volume.
    "Overzealous dosing" -Jin

    Rest in Peace Robot Lord. First round of Natty Boh is on me when I make it up there with you brother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobra Strike View Post
    Oh and dont put water in the pot...just set the beaker on the burner. Im not sure where the "heat in water" thing ever came from.
    ESPECIALLY this! No water near gear.
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    I've always wanted to try this. But I think the headache isn't worth it..
    "No matter what you spend on gear or euipment the value of making your woman want you is priceless" CobraStrike

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    Quote Originally Posted by bugman View Post
    I've always wanted to try this. But I think the headache isn't worth it..
    Thats why most people dont. Unless your gonna sell it than it really isnt worth it....or if you live in a gear hostile environment like bvs lol

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    I agree with the Bug, I've always considered it but the hassle seems far too great for me.

    Busy schedule as is, and it would always be for personal use
    You may be smooth, but you will never be Baby Smooth.

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    U just let the kid down the street brew for me. He just uses 409 to clean out a pot and a lighter to sterilize his utensils. Works for me
    "No matter what you spend on gear or euipment the value of making your woman want you is priceless" CobraStrike

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