Hdrol (only) vs Tbol (only)

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If Hdrol is converts to Tbol, then why is it ok for Hdrol to be cycled without test? But when I read about Tbol only cycles the OP gets bashed and called stupid. So let's clear the air:

1. Why is it ok for Hdrol to be taken without a test base, but not okay for Tbol to be taken without a test base...if Tbol and Hdrol are "similar"

2. How much Hdrol actually converts to Tbol?
 

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H drol is a pro hormone and tbol is anabolic-androgenic steroid and has a 0 androgenic rating but does not aromatize that's what's different compared to dbol.


Just because two compounds have like abilities, does not mean they're composed the same way and do different things to the body.
 
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If Hdrol is converts to Tbol, then why is it ok for Hdrol to be cycled without test? But when I read about Tbol only cycles the OP gets bashed and called stupid. So let's clear the air:

1. Why is it ok for Hdrol to be taken without a test base, but not okay for Tbol to be taken without a test base...if Tbol and Hdrol are "similar"

2. How much Hdrol actually converts to Tbol?

Anything that causes suppression of the HPTA needs to be ran with testosterone. Very simple as to why:

HPTA suppression leaves you with little to no testosterone.

You're basically a woman at that point.

Injecting test brings up test levels.

Moar test = moar gains (to a point)

Oral only is for females.

Don't be a female.
 

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Anything that causes suppression of the HPTA needs to be ran with testosterone. Very simple as to why:

HPTA suppression leaves you with little to no testosterone.

You're basically a woman at that point.

Injecting test brings up test levels.

Moar test = moar gains (to a point)

Oral only is for females.

Don't be a female.

Basically what I said but I was nicer about it. Oneupofbalance
 

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Test is best brother
 

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H & t Bol are close but like 85% the same.

As repeated. Tes is needed.
 

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dude just get some tes E/C, you can pin once a wk (its not the best, but you can do it) and run the tbol 6-7wks.

400-600mg of the tes.
 
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If Hdrol is converts to Tbol, then why is it ok for Hdrol to be cycled without test? But when I read about Tbol only cycles the OP gets bashed and called stupid. So let's clear the air:

1. Why is it ok for Hdrol to be taken without a test base, but not okay for Tbol to be taken without a test base...if Tbol and Hdrol are "similar"

2. How much Hdrol actually converts to Tbol?

Always use a test base, just get some straight tbol, use they are legit ************
 
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this dude is a masterpiece

the thread is like a hundred years old already
 

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