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WEEK 5!
Bumped the Aromasin up to 12.5 ED and my starting weight this week is 250.8lbs. Had the flu last week and now I have a sore throat but I can train with that unlike the flu. Today was Bench day.

BB Bench Press
315 x3
340 x3
360 x2
340 x 2 (paused)
315 x 4 (longer pause)

DB Inclines: 100's x10, 100's x 3 (lol), 85's x6, 50's x 15 (idk what happened on this exercise today haha)
Cable Chest Flys: 25lbs x25, 35 x15, 25 x 20
DB Rows: 110's x20, 15, 12
Lat Pulldowns: 150 x12, 130 x20, 100 x30
DB Hammer Curls: 50's x10, 10, 10, 8
Abs

Tommorow is Legs!
 

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Is it? Im on 600mg Test per week. I was told 12.5-25mg daily was a common dose

Not at 600 test it's not. Unless you've done bloodwork to verify high e2 why would you increase the stane?
 

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use your ai according to your bloodwork..Knowing to take 12.5 ed or 12.5 eod of aromasin is not knowing how to control estrogen.Also your dose of test doesnt matter everyone converts differently
 
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I remember trying to do calves on leg day. Haha just wouldn't work for me. My legs would shake too much.
 

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Is it? Im on 600mg Test per week. I was told 12.5-25mg daily was a common dose

Lol its not a high dose, these guys are over exaggerating :)

The chances of you crashing your e2 with aromasin is close to zero (25mg ED is used by non-aas males and even then e2 goes down only 60% or so).
12.5mg ED is fine, you can adjust if mid cycle bloodwork dictates it's necessary.
 

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I remember trying to do calves on leg day. Haha just wouldn't work for me. My legs would shake too much.
I remember when I last did calf raises like a year ago
 

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Lol its not a high dose, these guys are over exaggerating :)

The chances of you crashing your e2 with aromasin is close to zero (25mg ED is used by non-aas males and even then e2 goes down only 60% or so).
12.5mg ED is fine, you can adjust if mid cycle bloodwork dictates it's necessary.

these drugs like adex and asin are not good for you.I like to try to use them as least as i need to.I truly believe in doing multiple blood tests early on when you first start cycling to really understand how to control estrogen and what dose you truly need.You may need more then you think or u may not need to dose it often at all.Human grade ai are not cheap either u may be spending money for no reason even though we should all have ai on hand.Im sure you know I just feel like posting some shit today Bhahaha
 

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these drugs like adex and asin are not good for you.I like to try to use them as least as i need to.I truly believe in doing multiple blood tests early on when you first start cycling to really understand how to control estrogen and what dose you truly need.You may need more then you think or u may not need to dose it often at all.Human grade ai are not cheap either u may be spending money for no reason even though we should all have ai on hand.Im sure you know I just feel like posting some shit today Bhahaha

People have different levels of sensitivity (some don't need an AI at all, others have to go extreme and use letro) so your right, the only true way to dial everything in is through regular bloodwork.
However, for the OP I don't think 12.5mg ED of aromasin is a bad place to start until he gets bloodwork, its not too high or too low, especially when you consider just how "gentle" asin is compared to other AIs.

Plus you get a little bit of a decrease in SHBG from asin so its not all bad :)
 

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People have different levels of sensitivity (some don't need an AI at all, others have to go extreme and use letro) so your right, the only true way to dial everything in is through regular bloodwork.
However, for the OP I don't think 12.5mg ED of aromasin is a bad place to start until he gets bloodwork, its not too high or too low, especially when you consider just how "gentle" asin is compared to other AIs.

Plus you get a little bit of a decrease in SHBG from asin so its not all bad :)

asin is my choice over adex cause i heard its easier on lipids then adex with less of a rebound.I dont know if its really true but i went for it.
 
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Legs!

Olympic Squats (high bar, ass to the grass)
405 x5
430 x3
455 x1
405 x4
225 x22
225 x17
225 x13

Hamstring Curls: 75 x25, 75 x15, 55 x20, 45 x12
Seated Calf Raises and Straight Leg Calf Raises

About the Asin issue. I always used to get bloodwork through privatemdlabs but now I moved to Europe and can't seem to figure it out yet, in a way that wont get me in trouble. 12.5 ED has stopped the excess water gains and acne. Ofcourse the only way to REALLY know is to get your bloods done.

This is my first time using an AI on cycle and im liking it. I don't know if aromasin is the reason but my sex drive is INSANE, almost overwhelming and annoying lol.
 

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Shoulders/Triceps focus

Standing Military Press
185 x5
195 x5
185 x5
135 x12
135 x8
95 x12

Incine BB Bench: 135 x22, 15, 12
EZ Skullcrusher off the floor: 75 x20, 75 x20, 75 x15
Seated DB Lateral Raises: 35's x20, 35's x12, 25's x20, 15's x25

Triceps Rope Pressdowns, Rear Delt Flys, EZ Bar Curls and Abs
 

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Dynamic Legs

Dynamic Box Squats with Blue Bands:
12 x2 with 225 +bands

Speed Deadlift: 12 x1 with 275

Barbell Hip Extension: 135 x20 for 3 sets

Seated Calf Raises and Straight Leg Calf Raises
 

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Week 6
My weight is exactly the same as last week 250.8 . Today I drove a couple of hours to train with this powerlifter who competes internationally. Was definitely cool.

Bench + Chest and Triceps

Bench Press
355 x1
405 x fail (bout 3 quarters of the way)
385 x1
355 x 2
315 x 5 (paused)
275 x10
225 x8

BB Incline Bench Superset with DB Incline Flys
225 x3, 185 x8, 135 x8, 135 x5 and 60's x 8,8,8,6

Dips: 45lbs x8, BW x 8, BW x8, BW x3

I usually do back work on Bench day so Ill probably do that tomorrow. not sure yet though
 

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Did some Back today, usually don't do it on its own. Also I am deadlifting tomorrow so it would have been better to do it Monday but **** it

Pullups: BW x8, BW x8, BW x5, BW x3
DB Rows: 110's x20, 15, 12
Wide-grip Pulldowns: 155 x12, 125 x20, 105 x20, 105 x20
Tbar Pulldowns: Drop set from 185
DB Hammer Curls: 45's x12, 45's x12, 40's x12, 25's x20
Abs

Hopefully the back and ab work doesn't mess my deads up tommorow
 

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Deadlifts today! Been a while

Deadlifts (conventional):
495 x1
515 x1
545 x1
565 xfail
545 x1
405 x9

Olympic Squats:
225 x20
225 x15
225 x 12

Hamstring Curls: 75 x20, 75 x12, 45 x20
Seated Calf Raises: 25 x75, 25 x58, 25 x45
Straight Leg Calf Raises: 95 x60, 95 x50, 75 x33

That was it, pretty tough workout for me today. Tommorow Shoulders and Triceps
 

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Shoulders/Triceps

Standing Military Press
185 x5
205 x3
185 x5
135 x12
135 x7
95 x12

followed by Close-grip Incline Press, Skull-crushers on the floor, DB lateral raises, Triceps rope pressdowns, Rear-delt flys and Abs!
 

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WEEK 7

Forgot to weigh myself this morning so I will tomorrow. The gym was closed on Saturday so I missed dynamic legs. I decided to do Incline Bench for a change and goddam is my incline pathetic compared to my flat. Here is todays workout:

Incline Bench
225 x5
275 x2
225 x5
225 x5
225 x3

Flat DB Bench
100's x15, 100's x12, 100's x8, 90's x8

Dips
BW x25, BW x16, BW x12

Triceps Rope Pressdowns and Abs
 

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My weight this week is 251.6 (0.8 increase from last week). Tuesday I hit Back bodybuilding type workout. Today was Legs

Box Squats
405 x3
455 x3
485 x1
455 x3
455 x3
405 x7
355 x12
315 x12
225 x20

Seated Calf Raises: 25 x75, 65, 64, 32

BB Hip Thrusters (idk the name, looks like youre ****ing the bar): 135 x20, 20,20

Straight Leg Calf Raises: 90 x50, 40, 40, 30

455 x3 is my best squat this cycle.
 

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