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I see alot of hate/misguidance/ and just improper protocol all over the forums about prohormones its really unfortunate. So I've decided to stop reading and write somthing up. So first and foremost PHs are steroids there all old steroids that were logged in the 50s and 60s they were just never brought out. Due to the fact that back then people were able to run rampant with testosterone, dbol and what not. So In a chemist's mind why put out these other steroids when these are working just fine. (don't fix somthing that's not broken) aside from that there were steroids like superdrol that was far more liver toxic then dbol so again not much reason to bring these to surface.
Let's make a long story short AAS act of the 90s happened, so this old recipe book gets brought out and some molecules get modified, then boom we have prohormones or.. designer steroids. Years go on and then 2014 designer steroids act happens most of these got taken off the market but sure enough more molecules get modified and we have a whole new set of legal roids.
Ok story time is over let's get in to how you run these things. So we have it covered that prohormone are the same as AAS,(for the most part) we will relate these more to drugs like dbol, anadrol, and or anavar. Due to the fax that 99.9% of these things are gonna shut you down.. and fast.. that's never any fun.. lion in the gym and a kitten in bed... Running a Prohormone by itself is like running a stand alone dbol or deca cycle. Your gonna get SHUT DOWN!!! So we want to prevent this and there is means of doing so first would obviously be stack with test but if this is not available to you or you are hesitant of lawful action there is legal solutions.... God here comes the trolls
Tribulus, now no this will not make you a anabolic freak this is merely a herb. This herb stimulates naturally free and total test values so if your a healthy male with regular testosterone function and you stack this with a prohormone it will have a lot more difficult time of shutting you down. I run a natural test booster all the way from start to end of PCT I've actually only experienced increase in sex drive while on cycle. But there are other means to keeping test high during a PH cycle...(cuz I know none of us like that natural shit)....****ing herbs lol.
So we have testosterone precursor compounds like 4-androsterone , 1-androsterone, and epiandrosterone. These compound have a two step conversion, which will actually turn in to testosterone so you will be with out a doubt boosting test lvls. Again this is nothing like a IM injection of testosterone but it will keep you nice and hard during your cycle(in and out of the bedroom), and in most cases give your test alittle extra boost up as well.
Ok so now we have are compounds how will we block estrogen.... with more ****ing compound duhhh. Never use estrogen fighting herbs to block your estro there no way it's going to control that much conversion. Ima keep this simple.. Here is a legal and highly effective estro blocking compound that mimics arimi androst 3,5-dien-7, 17-dione this is a good compound it has served me well and to be honest haven't found anything similar unless you go to research Chem.
As everyone reading this should already know you need liver support.. I shouldn't have to go to in depth In this but what I do wanna say is taking some ****ing bottle that says cycle support does not mean your in the clear by any means. Those again are merely herbs helping along the way to aid your livers recovery from the stress it's in countering. It's mainly up to you, take herbal support but make sure your water in on point your foods should be good and clean diet. Lifestyle is mainly what will keep the liver strong not some herbs... throw them in there for aid.. but dont fully relay on them for support
PCT should consist of a natural test booster and estro control. That's why running a natural test booster threw the whole cycle will make your PCT that much stronger allowing you to maintain gains better
Below I will post my protocol for my next cycle, so everyone can get a more visual image of what I just explained. I hope this helps everyone please feel free to comment on anything that might be useful to this topic or if I missed anything.
Week1
12mg ultradrol/day
90mg max LRG/day
800mg tribulus/day
125mg 4-androsteron/day
125mg 1-androsteron/day
450mg epiandrosterone /day
75mg androst 3,5-dien-7, 17-dione/day
This will be done for 4 weeks
Week 5
800mg tribulus
75mg androst 3,5-dien-7, 17-dione
I see alot of hate/misguidance/ and just improper protocol all over the forums about prohormones its really unfortunate. So I've decided to stop reading and write somthing up. So first and foremost PHs are steroids there all old steroids that were logged in the 50s and 60s they were just never brought out. Due to the fact that back then people were able to run rampant with testosterone, dbol and what not. So In a chemist's mind why put out these other steroids when these are working just fine. (don't fix somthing that's not broken) aside from that there were steroids like superdrol that was far more liver toxic then dbol so again not much reason to bring these to surface.
Let's make a long story short AAS act of the 90s happened, so this old recipe book gets brought out and some molecules get modified, then boom we have prohormones or.. designer steroids. Years go on and then 2014 designer steroids act happens most of these got taken off the market but sure enough more molecules get modified and we have a whole new set of legal roids.
Ok story time is over let's get in to how you run these things. So we have it covered that prohormone are the same as AAS,(for the most part) we will relate these more to drugs like dbol, anadrol, and or anavar. Due to the fax that 99.9% of these things are gonna shut you down.. and fast.. that's never any fun.. lion in the gym and a kitten in bed... Running a Prohormone by itself is like running a stand alone dbol or deca cycle. Your gonna get SHUT DOWN!!! So we want to prevent this and there is means of doing so first would obviously be stack with test but if this is not available to you or you are hesitant of lawful action there is legal solutions.... God here comes the trolls
Tribulus, now no this will not make you a anabolic freak this is merely a herb. This herb stimulates naturally free and total test values so if your a healthy male with regular testosterone function and you stack this with a prohormone it will have a lot more difficult time of shutting you down. I run a natural test booster all the way from start to end of PCT I've actually only experienced increase in sex drive while on cycle. But there are other means to keeping test high during a PH cycle...(cuz I know none of us like that natural shit)....****ing herbs lol.
So we have testosterone precursor compounds like 4-androsterone , 1-androsterone, and epiandrosterone. These compound have a two step conversion, which will actually turn in to testosterone so you will be with out a doubt boosting test lvls. Again this is nothing like a IM injection of testosterone but it will keep you nice and hard during your cycle(in and out of the bedroom), and in most cases give your test alittle extra boost up as well.
Ok so now we have are compounds how will we block estrogen.... with more ****ing compound duhhh. Never use estrogen fighting herbs to block your estro there no way it's going to control that much conversion. Ima keep this simple.. Here is a legal and highly effective estro blocking compound that mimics arimi androst 3,5-dien-7, 17-dione this is a good compound it has served me well and to be honest haven't found anything similar unless you go to research Chem.
As everyone reading this should already know you need liver support.. I shouldn't have to go to in depth In this but what I do wanna say is taking some ****ing bottle that says cycle support does not mean your in the clear by any means. Those again are merely herbs helping along the way to aid your livers recovery from the stress it's in countering. It's mainly up to you, take herbal support but make sure your water in on point your foods should be good and clean diet. Lifestyle is mainly what will keep the liver strong not some herbs... throw them in there for aid.. but dont fully relay on them for support
PCT should consist of a natural test booster and estro control. That's why running a natural test booster threw the whole cycle will make your PCT that much stronger allowing you to maintain gains better
Below I will post my protocol for my next cycle, so everyone can get a more visual image of what I just explained. I hope this helps everyone please feel free to comment on anything that might be useful to this topic or if I missed anything.
Week1
12mg ultradrol/day
90mg max LRG/day
800mg tribulus/day
125mg 4-androsteron/day
125mg 1-androsteron/day
450mg epiandrosterone /day
75mg androst 3,5-dien-7, 17-dione/day
This will be done for 4 weeks
Week 5
800mg tribulus
75mg androst 3,5-dien-7, 17-dione
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