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You'll be fine. You're just getting a knot.

But let's talk about that first cycle of yours. Are u on trt? That's a crazy first cycle man. Deca and Tren alone on a first cycle is a no no and you're doing both. I hope you've done your research and know recovery will probably be a bitch for you after this.

Ecks is right dude, this cycle is crazy for a first timer.... A lot of dudes can put on 20+ lbs with just 500 mg of test per week for their first cycle... And btw, recovering even with proper pct in place from deca can be hard; with tren, forget about it... Good luck recovering your natural test levels from that. If I were you and if you just started the tren, I would at least stop that. You are looking at potentially (even high probability) of needed trt for life afterwards... Its extremely hard to recover after tren.

P.S.- I know you said you are clean about stuff and this is super basic, but are you cleaning the lid on the vial and your injection site with an alcohol prep pad? Also, look into trying the Ventroglutel Injection site. Zero pip and it can hold a lot of oil.
 
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Yes I wipe the top of the vial habitually. i will try
To find the ventroglutal spot and research it a bit.
 

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Your recovery is going to be horrible.
For the sake of any woman you are seeing get some viagra or cialis.
 

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2 19-nor's.....on a 1st run.....wtf...?? do you have any clue..??

Drop either the tren or deca. You dont have the ancil's or knowledge on hand to run both, together, for a first cycle!!!!!!

your going to end up 20lbs more with half a breast.



GL man
 

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Way back when the earth was cooling and I was reading about cycles. The number one thing
i seem to read over and over was don't run deca and tren together. Do, to progesterone sides. Much harder
to deal with then estrogen side. Has something changed? In all my history in this game I only used deca during
one cycle. Then another time I used low dose tren with test. All that said my first cycle was 200mg test a week.
10 week cycle. I was in my late 30s, gained 20#. No not all muscle but DAMN did I change my look. Never again have I had
such a remarkable change to my body in 10 weeks.

So, by all means train the shit out of your legs. Do, all the classic compound movements and progress the weight and EAT.

Oh, and for the "guys" in the gym that said to crank it up or whatever they said?? Learn to think for yourself. In the end you will
be dealing with all the post cycle BS.

Good luck and grow.
GC
 

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You can't un-suck the dick. Might as well train your ass off and make the most of it.
 

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2 19-nor's.....on a 1st run.....wtf...?? do you have any clue..??

Drop either the tren or deca. You dont have the ancil's or knowledge on hand to run both, together, for a first cycle!!!!!!

your going to end up 20lbs more with half a breast.



GL man

This stems from I want it all I want it now. Tren to cut and deca to add muscle is usually the thought behind it. No consideration paid to recovery or side effects. Nothing matters.
 
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I'm thinking about dropping the tren and deca all together. I'll maybe try it out next cycle. I haven't noticed much from either as far as sides go. I'm already in great shape, and as I said I would like to step it up a notch. This post was originally about a concern for a lump that I received, I thought it might be a good place to get un-bias information from people that have been through it. The lump is half the size today as it was yesterday and I have no pain there anymore. It shrunk simply by adding heat to it. No massaging no rubbing, I just switch from a ice pack to a heat pack and now it's half gone. I typed my issue into Google and that's what Google first link in Google suggested.
 

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I'm thinking about dropping the tren and deca all together. I'll maybe try it out next cycle. I haven't noticed much from either as far as sides go. I'm already in great shape, and as I said I would like to step it up a notch. This post was originally about a concern for a lump that I received, I thought it might be a good place to get un-bias information from people that have been through it. The lump is half the size today as it was yesterday and I have no pain there anymore. It shrunk simply by adding heat to it. No massaging no rubbing, I just switch from a ice pack to a heat pack and now it's half gone. I typed my issue into Google and that's what Google first link in Google suggested.

dont rub it. Dont mess with it. That will only be bad.

dropping both of those would be a solid move man. The lump will slowly go away with just using your AI & you can save the tren/deca for runs in the future.

If the lump doesnt go away after dropping those otther 2 and using your AI, you may need some nolva. Nolva will act as an AI only on the pec/breast area....it will halt the estrogen activity in that area.

SERM's, specifically nolva & ralox are the best for gyno issues.


GL
 

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