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Brief back story, a little over a year ago I tested for low T at age 29 - 30, 5'11'' 135lbs I tested at 217 and my doc recommended to an Endo which agreed to TRT. My background - I'm a post doc in Biophysics in a Lab for a (Big) US Pharmaceutical Company and admittedly against a lot of advise from some experienced trainer friends I took matters in my own hands (I do not recommend this as I 1 did my PhD in a medical school and have medical training and 2 work with MD PhD Endocrinology and Urology researchers so I had access to medical pros and labs at the drop of a hat at no cost) I was also very careful and got regular labs and physicals. My current research over the past two years is in HRT as it can relate to treatments for psychological disorders in both men and women. And collaborating on several other papers surrounding breast cancer and testicular cancer treatments.
Even though I'm still a beginner and had good results I DO NOT in anyway recommend doing what I've done starting out. My access to Medical professionals, labs, academic training and various other conditions supported safe and monitored experimentation to the tune of what I'd assume most insurance would never cover and cost thousands a month in labs and doctors visits for the average person. I also made an educated decision to be on TRT the rest of my life.
The Skinny - TLDR at bottom
First year - cycles = 16 weeks Test E 270 at 540mg per week (shot Mon and Friday) (did not need AI but had it on hand) Did not PCT - I dropped to a cruising dose of 200mg Shot of 100mg twice per week for 16 weeks after my first cycle with very low doses of Clomid then 2nd cycle did a 16 weeks of Test E and stacked Deca for 12 weeks tapering the Test E for 4 weeks to a cruising dose of 200 =16 weeks which I'm on now after my 2nd cycle and have been for 9 weeks. I also got a script from the start of Colonidine for blood pressure and give blood every three months to reduce hematocrit.
Workout = since I had no lifting experience I decided for the first 16 week cycle to do the Navy SEAL conditioning workout because my gym has a pool navyseal dot s5 dot com/workouts dot html I followed this to a T for the most part and struggled but had a good friend doing it with me and keeping me accountable. put on 40 lbs on the first cycle.
Workout = for the 16 week cruise at 200mg Test E per week I did the Starting Strength program startingstrength dot com/get-started/programs to get myself ready for my next cycle.
2nd Cycle 16 weeks Test E + Deca I modified the Starting Strength program to 6 days per week with a continuous 45 minute swim every other day in the evening.
Current cruising cycle I'm doing the Original Starting Strength on a Bulking diet adding Boxing Training on my in between days.
Diet = 1st cycle 16 weeks since I had no structured dieting experience my meal plan looked like this: Note I work in a lab so for the most part it was easy for me to Eat all day and have a full kitchen in our break room. I kept around 4500 - 6000 kcals per day my first 16 weeks and went from 135lbs to 175lbs in about 12 weeks.
Bulking (which I got from a site a little of a year ago) first 16 weeks =
Meal 1 6 egg whites/1 whole egg. 1 cup of oatmeal
Meal 2 8 oz meat choice. 2 cups of white rice ( I season with Mrs. Dash, sometimes lemon pepper) 1 medium sweet potato
Meal 3 8 oz chicken breast, 2 cups of brown rice, asparagus
Meal 4 60 gram protein shake prior to workout, cup of almonds.
Meal 5 10 oz meat 1 and 1/2 cup of brown or long grain rice, spinach salad with olive oil or balsamic v.
Meal 6 8 oz chicken or fish. 1 cup of broccoli
Meal 7 Low Fat cottage cheese or Greek yogurt with fruit added.
Cruising for 16 weeks = kept most of my gains with some loss in endurance and strength but not terribly significant
Meal 1 2.5 cups of egg whites, 1 cup of oatmeal, black coffee with one sweetener if preferred.
Meal 2 8oz chicken breast (I use Mrs. Dash seasonings) 1 cup brown rice, steamed vegetables.
Meal 3 10oz of lean meat & one medium sized sweet potato
Meal 4 I Generally make a Protein shake with water (pre workout meal)
Meal 5 10oz Chicken breast, Steamed veggie, possible quinoa.
Meal 6 10 oz Halibut or Tilapia (or whatever fish you can get, fresh is best!) Generally add greens or asparagus
Meal 7 Cottage Cheese, blueberry (or another fruit)/ or Greek Yogurt accompanied by supplements.
2nd Cycle = the above Bulking diet = 16 week Test E blast 2nd blast added Deca for 12 weeks tapering to cruising at 200mg the last 9 weeks.
TLDR
Labs = 1st cycle averaged between 2000 - 3000 test first and 2nd Blast so fully Anabolic while Cruising I averaged between 600 and 900 test I kept my blood pressure regulated with Clonidine and did a low dose of Arimidex 2nd cycle - currently on 200mg of Test E per week with a low dose of Clomid.
in 7 weeks I'm planning to do a 12 week Test E Blast and wondering what I could maybe stack on it to gain some size and strength gains. I do not want to run Tren but considering Dbol. Also want to switch up my weight training to shock my Muscles but at a loss of what type of program and diet to try for 12 weeks.
Goal 2nd year is to get to 220lbs - 10% bf and increase all lifts between 15 - 25%
First year =
Cycles 16 weeks 540 Test E
16 weeks cruising 200 Test E
16 weeks 600 Test E + Deca for 12 weeks
Past 9 weeks 200mg Test E
Starting Stats =
Age 30 - 5'11" 135lbs around 15 - 17% bf
Bench 95
Squat 105
DL 180
Current Stats =
Age 31 - 5'11" 195lbs around 12% bf
Bench 210
Squat 350
DL 375
Cruising Cycles lost 15 - 20% in Strength in lifts and 10 - 15lbs in body weight
I'd like to do another year 2 cycles stacking something different then go on a regular TRT dose of 175 to 200mg Test E for a few years with no blast after my next 2 cycles. I also plan to do TRT the rest of my life as the shots do not bother me that much. I have not injured myself yet (fingers crossed) I'm as careful as I possibly can be.
I'm guessing in my first year I put on around 25 - 30lbs of muscle maybe more - standby for pics
Even though I'm still a beginner and had good results I DO NOT in anyway recommend doing what I've done starting out. My access to Medical professionals, labs, academic training and various other conditions supported safe and monitored experimentation to the tune of what I'd assume most insurance would never cover and cost thousands a month in labs and doctors visits for the average person. I also made an educated decision to be on TRT the rest of my life.
The Skinny - TLDR at bottom
First year - cycles = 16 weeks Test E 270 at 540mg per week (shot Mon and Friday) (did not need AI but had it on hand) Did not PCT - I dropped to a cruising dose of 200mg Shot of 100mg twice per week for 16 weeks after my first cycle with very low doses of Clomid then 2nd cycle did a 16 weeks of Test E and stacked Deca for 12 weeks tapering the Test E for 4 weeks to a cruising dose of 200 =16 weeks which I'm on now after my 2nd cycle and have been for 9 weeks. I also got a script from the start of Colonidine for blood pressure and give blood every three months to reduce hematocrit.
Workout = since I had no lifting experience I decided for the first 16 week cycle to do the Navy SEAL conditioning workout because my gym has a pool navyseal dot s5 dot com/workouts dot html I followed this to a T for the most part and struggled but had a good friend doing it with me and keeping me accountable. put on 40 lbs on the first cycle.
Workout = for the 16 week cruise at 200mg Test E per week I did the Starting Strength program startingstrength dot com/get-started/programs to get myself ready for my next cycle.
2nd Cycle 16 weeks Test E + Deca I modified the Starting Strength program to 6 days per week with a continuous 45 minute swim every other day in the evening.
Current cruising cycle I'm doing the Original Starting Strength on a Bulking diet adding Boxing Training on my in between days.
Diet = 1st cycle 16 weeks since I had no structured dieting experience my meal plan looked like this: Note I work in a lab so for the most part it was easy for me to Eat all day and have a full kitchen in our break room. I kept around 4500 - 6000 kcals per day my first 16 weeks and went from 135lbs to 175lbs in about 12 weeks.
Bulking (which I got from a site a little of a year ago) first 16 weeks =
Meal 1 6 egg whites/1 whole egg. 1 cup of oatmeal
Meal 2 8 oz meat choice. 2 cups of white rice ( I season with Mrs. Dash, sometimes lemon pepper) 1 medium sweet potato
Meal 3 8 oz chicken breast, 2 cups of brown rice, asparagus
Meal 4 60 gram protein shake prior to workout, cup of almonds.
Meal 5 10 oz meat 1 and 1/2 cup of brown or long grain rice, spinach salad with olive oil or balsamic v.
Meal 6 8 oz chicken or fish. 1 cup of broccoli
Meal 7 Low Fat cottage cheese or Greek yogurt with fruit added.
Cruising for 16 weeks = kept most of my gains with some loss in endurance and strength but not terribly significant
Meal 1 2.5 cups of egg whites, 1 cup of oatmeal, black coffee with one sweetener if preferred.
Meal 2 8oz chicken breast (I use Mrs. Dash seasonings) 1 cup brown rice, steamed vegetables.
Meal 3 10oz of lean meat & one medium sized sweet potato
Meal 4 I Generally make a Protein shake with water (pre workout meal)
Meal 5 10oz Chicken breast, Steamed veggie, possible quinoa.
Meal 6 10 oz Halibut or Tilapia (or whatever fish you can get, fresh is best!) Generally add greens or asparagus
Meal 7 Cottage Cheese, blueberry (or another fruit)/ or Greek Yogurt accompanied by supplements.
2nd Cycle = the above Bulking diet = 16 week Test E blast 2nd blast added Deca for 12 weeks tapering to cruising at 200mg the last 9 weeks.
TLDR
Labs = 1st cycle averaged between 2000 - 3000 test first and 2nd Blast so fully Anabolic while Cruising I averaged between 600 and 900 test I kept my blood pressure regulated with Clonidine and did a low dose of Arimidex 2nd cycle - currently on 200mg of Test E per week with a low dose of Clomid.
in 7 weeks I'm planning to do a 12 week Test E Blast and wondering what I could maybe stack on it to gain some size and strength gains. I do not want to run Tren but considering Dbol. Also want to switch up my weight training to shock my Muscles but at a loss of what type of program and diet to try for 12 weeks.
Goal 2nd year is to get to 220lbs - 10% bf and increase all lifts between 15 - 25%
First year =
Cycles 16 weeks 540 Test E
16 weeks cruising 200 Test E
16 weeks 600 Test E + Deca for 12 weeks
Past 9 weeks 200mg Test E
Starting Stats =
Age 30 - 5'11" 135lbs around 15 - 17% bf
Bench 95
Squat 105
DL 180
Current Stats =
Age 31 - 5'11" 195lbs around 12% bf
Bench 210
Squat 350
DL 375
Cruising Cycles lost 15 - 20% in Strength in lifts and 10 - 15lbs in body weight
I'd like to do another year 2 cycles stacking something different then go on a regular TRT dose of 175 to 200mg Test E for a few years with no blast after my next 2 cycles. I also plan to do TRT the rest of my life as the shots do not bother me that much. I have not injured myself yet (fingers crossed) I'm as careful as I possibly can be.
I'm guessing in my first year I put on around 25 - 30lbs of muscle maybe more - standby for pics
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