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    need some feedback on next cycle

    hey guys im ready to start another bulking cycle i was looking trough my things and found couple bottles of test-e, couple bottles of tren acetate, and a few npp bottles and arimidex nolvadex. i am 45 and about 10%bf trying to add some serious size will be eating well i just need some feedback from u guys that know more than i do i guess we could always need adviceok here we go 12 weeks

    600mg test-e every wekk
    200mg tren acetate m,w,friday
    200mg npp m,w,friday
    plus arimidex half eod
    nolvadex ed
    clomid after cycle

    so if you guys can take a look at these numberes i would appreciate make changes add stuff delete stuff i just want to use up wahat i have and was wondering if i can make a cycle out of this so i dont need to spend more money

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    A lot of guys don't feel that stellar running 2 19's at once. I didn't have a problem the last time but it was only 150 deca/week.
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    hey tool steel since you used 2 nor 19s did u find that u got better gains or do u think i would benefit by dropping the npp, or tren

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    have u run tren and npp separate from each other before? Most guys wont run both because the chance of recovery is slim when running such compounds..If your on trt and dont care about recovering I say go for it

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    oh shit i forgot to tell u guys i am on trt sorry but bro bundy i know alot of guys wont touch 2 nor 19 at once i am also concerned would it benefit me in any way by using another nor or will i be wasting my gear or should i expect better gains by using 2 nors 19 with test -e thanks in advance j

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeebise23 View Post
    oh shit i forgot to tell u guys i am on trt sorry but bro bundy i know alot of guys wont touch 2 nor 19 at once i am also concerned would it benefit me in any way by using another nor or will i be wasting my gear or should i expect better gains by using 2 nors 19 with test -e thanks in advance j
    forget the whole nor thing..You can use anything with anything if u know how to combat sides and do bloodwork..Heath wise its a rough cycle but they all are

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    thanks anyone else

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    Hold the tren. Run the test and npp. If you are in trt you don't need clomid after the blast.
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    For a bulk, and understanding that yer already on TRT, I'd make the following changes...

    * Extend the cycle to 14+ weeks
    * Skip the Tren
    * Skip the Nolva (don't see any need for this)
    * Up the NPP to 600 Mg
    * Run HCG @ 250 IU 2x weekly
    * Run yer Arimidex at 0.25mg to 0.5mg EOD or E3D
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    Oh goodie! The going out of business cycle! lol

    Personally, I'd drop the NPP. It's good stuff but with the Tren, it would worry me. Other then that, if you can handle the sides, you'll get huge!
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    I say, if you have never run a nor-19 before, skip the tren this time and increase the npp like Savage said... See how you handle the sides and then run the tren next time...
    Abs are cool, but have you tried stuffed-crust pizza?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vucutgelistirme View Post
    I do not understand why this harmful substance is still used? Lately, appearance has become very important, so people can inject these harmful substances. It is possible to say that it reaches very grave dimensions.
    Provide evidence
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    Quote Originally Posted by vucutgelistirme View Post
    I do not understand why this harmful substance is still used? Lately, appearance has become very important, so people can inject these harmful substances. It is possible to say that it reaches very grave dimensions.
    First off, which of the substances above are you calling "harmful" that "it reaches very grave dimensions"???



    Secondly, where the hell did you come from??? Your post seems very random and obtuse......
    Abs are cool, but have you tried stuffed-crust pizza?

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