First visit to endo the other day..

[Jaydub]

So I had my first visit with and endocrinologist a few days ago, and I have mixed feelings. They have my medical history, so they know I've been prescribed this gel for a long time now. The guy said we can do shots, but they'd be once every 3 weeks, and I'll have to come into the office to get them done. Now, he said I can bring my wife and she can observe and do them at home. But one shot every 3 weeks? I'm doing 4 pumps of androgel (like 80mg of test) a day.. the other thing is he sent me for another blood test. Now I'm no genius, but taking 80mg of test a day isn't gonna have my blood test showing low testosterone. So what can I expect? Can I just take the shot every 3 weeks for a while and ask for an increase in dose? Is he even gonna prescribe me anything if my test comes back in the normal range? And my last blood test had my total test at 310. He says this is normal. I'm not thinking so.. Any advice would be great fellas.

 

[ToolSteel]

Find a different endo. Period.

 

[snake]

If you're on the gel, he has to expect you're TT to come back around the 500-600 range. That's the middle of the road and typically that's where they want to be. I'm not arguing if that's right or wrong but that's the typical reality. One shot of any amount of Testosterone at any weight or any ester is just not going to end well.

This Endocrinologist advice is something you would hear more out of a backwoods GP; now that would bother me. As for getting another blood test, It's probably just S.O.P. Dr. do not like being schooled by their patients so walk a thin line with questioning everything. As much as it's going to suck, ask him right up front where he wants you to fall in with your TT. If he give you a number, then that's the number. Actually, you won't get a number but a range. You need to nail him down to a plan and then a counter plan if that doesn't work. If you're real lucky, he will make a mistake and give you the "I don't want to put a number to it. It's about making you feel better." That goal would leave it completely under your control.

 

[Jaydub]

Yeah, it totally felt like I was just at another GP office. I was expecting, I dunno, more expertise maybe? And I hear what you are saying Snake, I'm not questioning him much at all. But have been very firm that the gel cannot continue. I don't wanna risk cross contamination with the kid. Told him the shots my primary was giving me worked better, it just felt like it wore off and had me on a roller coaster with my hormones. So we agreed shots are better. And I'll betry the lab tests is just protocol. So I'm guessing by what ToolSteel said this isn't normal for an endo visit. You guys think I should get the lab results back and look for another specialist then? Or should I feel this guy out first?

 

[John Ziegler]

Sounds like he wants to dick around with low numbers while you ride a peak and trough.

310 total is not normal it is totally ridiculous don't waste your time with that moron.

 

[Jaydub]

Thanks fellas. I'll shop around for a better doc.

 

[snake]

Finding another Dr. is up to you. I was just making suggestions if you were to stay with this guy. Good luck either way and keep us posted.

 

[BRICKS]

Thanks fellas. I'll shop around for a better doc.

This sounds like the best plan.

 

[Jaydub]

Sucks though, took 2 months to get into see this guy with a referral, now I gotta shop around. Read reviews or something. I dunno. Pain in the ass

 

[John Ziegler]

Sucks though, took 2 months to get into see this guy with a referral, now I gotta shop around. Read reviews or something. I dunno. Pain in the ass

Do what snake was saying ask the doc what numbers he wants to se you have going.

Free test total test E2......

 

[Jaydub]

Soon as I get the results and can talk to him I will. Stay tuned fellas

 

[JimGainz]

If you can afford it - better to go to a TRT clinic. It doesn't matter where you live since the doctors consult over the phone after you complete the patient intake forms and get all the blood work they require. FWIW I saw an Endo and Urologist when I had low T symptoms and they were pretty much like "welcome to middle age". Total clowns and a disgrace to the profession IMO. Anyway - keep us posted and good luck.

 

[Jaydub]

TRT clinics are extremely expensive though. You ship labs to wherever. They send you the stuff. 10 weeks worth for likeeping $650.. **** that

 

[Jaydub]

So got the rest of my results back today. Says my test is pretty low(was talking get to a nurse, she didn't give me a number), but asked if I had been still taking the gel. I said yeah, so she says the doc wants me to get an MRI before we switch to injections. Said that order could take another week to go thru. Damn man.

 

[gymrat827]

you almost want to find a spot that's somewhat shady. One that you can come into and almost ask for tes (provided your bloods justify it), I see a doc for all sorts of stuff and TRT is something he does. He scripts the pill that gets implanted in your ass/hip. But even with my so-so numbers he gave me the script for it.

IDK if you live in a big city/burbs, but you should have lots of options. TRT spots are like Micky D's over here, most just want to see bloods to justify the scripts, they almost want to give you the stuff. you just need to be 32/35+ and have piss poor bloods

 

[Jaydub]

you almost want to find a spot that's somewhat shady. One that you can come into and almost ask for tes (provided your bloods justify it), I see a doc for all sorts of stuff and TRT is something he does. He scripts the pill that gets implanted in your ass/hip. But even with my so-so numbers he gave me the script for it.

IDK if you live in a big city/burbs, but you should have lots of options. TRT spots are like Micky D's over here, most just want to see bloods to justify the scripts, they almost want to give you the stuff. you just need to be 32/35+ and have piss poor bloods

I've searched my area for TRT clinics, and come up empty handed. Theres the florida place that you send bloods to and they script you everything you need. No insurancd accepted, and costs upwards of $600 for a 12 week spin. My buddy hit the jackpot, his gp doctor tested him and right off the bat wrote him for 200mg of cyp every 2 weeks.. has his "wife" doing his injections at home for him. I dont mond going to a halfway shady place bro. I just feel weird about google searching for it. Like i said, last time i searched i found that place that wanted labs sent to florida, and an arm and a leg for treatment

 

[Jaydub]

And i fit the criteria all the way. Bloods fit, age fits. Gotta find a spot

 

[Jaydub]

So went and had an MRI, that came back normal so the doc said go ahead and switch to injections. The only problem I have is that he's putting me on 150mg every 3 weeks... wtf is that shit? They're gonna retest my levels between week 4 and week 5. Shitsmith gonna be low

 

[PillarofBalance]

So went and had an MRI, that came back normal so the doc said go ahead and switch to injections. The only problem I have is that he's putting me on 150mg every 3 weeks... wtf is that shit? They're gonna retest my levels between week 4 and week 5. Shitsmith gonna be low

That's ****ing retarded. You should ask why such a long time between injects (if they are using cyp) if the half life is what it is.

Otherwise just gotta play the game. Take it like they say and make sure you schedule bloods for day before shot is due. You should be well below range on that date. Try and get them to go 150 per week at least.

 

[MrRippedZilla]

Request, no demand, that you be allowed to self-inject at home with access to multi-use vials. That way you can manipulate the injection frequency however you wish and they won't have a clue what's going on unless your stupid enough to tell them.