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    Quote Originally Posted by at15 View Post
    Dont really believe in pct, more psychosomatic than anything backed by research.
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    So you don't find the effect sizes with regards to the data on that Indian herb highly suspicious?
    Or the fact that all the data on that herb comes from India, and is rarely referenced by more respected research institutions?
    Or the fact that research from most Indian institutions is viewed with great caution for a VERY good reason?

    And yet, your willing to rely on that bullshit but not the other, higher quality data, that has been replicated many times, conclusively showing Clomid & Nolva to increase FSH, LH and test levels?

    I'm amazed at how hard some folks try to be as illogical and retarded as possible. I really am.
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    Quote Originally Posted by automatondan View Post
    Have you tried the cold turkey method after taking tren before? (Be honest)
    no not after tren but the last tren for me was ~7 months ago.

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    You're nuts. Why? I came off a long blast cruise and did an overkill Pct and still felt like dog dick. Good luck dude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by at15 View Post
    no not after tren but the last tren for me was ~7 months ago.
    Doesnt matter if it was 9 months or 3 years ago with tren... Good luck futilely attempting to restart your HPTA without a proper pct. 19-nor compounds are not the same as test-based compounds... You might be looking at self-induced TRT for the rest of your life, all because of a poor decision based on intellectual pride. You do what you want man, im done trying.
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    I came off smoothly with no pct my last run after doing a test masteron cycle

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    Quote Originally Posted by PillarofBalance View Post
    Olololololol

    This is ****ing hilarious.
    ^^^ This exactly.

    Why the hell would you put yourself at that risk when your 26? Even if its "worked before". This is as stupid as it gets.
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    If aids patients get drol and GH, I'd say "hardgainers" need pot.

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    Day 16 going strong, still having good sex. Sometimes wake up a little tired but im ok once i get going.

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    i had a minor delay, the prop i was shooting before hand was either enan or cyp! this was at 3 weeks off.....should not have had any in the system.

    Jan 19 2017



    thats ~424 in ng/dl. kinda crazy their range is 142-923


    been 11 days since this test, still feeling decent. if a drink a big cup of coffee mid day it gives me a tremendous boost

    supplements right now:
    5000iu vitamin d
    400iu vitamin e
    600mg ashwagandha
    500mg curcumin
    1.2g citrulline
    3g arginine

    water intake: at least 4500ml per day
    training: 2 days a week, focus on compound movements with light accessories after
    dieting mon-fri, cheat on sat and sun. keeping the healthy fats high: whole eggs, coconut oil, almonds, etc
    Last edited by at15; 01-30-2017 at 06:35 AM.

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    You really should taper off and run a PCT in my opinion. I'm new on this board but from my experience it's not worth risking it. Which is definitely a big risk. Kinda wasting the gear. But that's just me. Even if it's just some Arim and nolva. I personally run some pretty heavy compounds and my pct had to be on point or my nuts are ****ed and very sensitive to Gyno. Running just Test at 5-600 mgs/wk isn't as drastic but you should still have some protection.

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    Ive done 5 or 6 pcts now and what i found out is if u dont have real human grade hcg,clomid,nolva good luck recovering from gear

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    I found that eating rocky mountain oysters EOD is better than PCT.
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    Yo if I went cold turkey after cruisin with Tren, I would have the worst bitch nips eveeeerrr!!!
    **** that


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