Nevermind found it thanks!I get booted for recommendations? Hmm didnt know that wasnt allowed are there rules somewhere to read
I don't know I read a pretty long medical study that explained the reference ranges for certain age groups and how you could be at the bottom end of normal but still be getting bad symptoms of low testosterone. Wish I could find the article, it was from some medical journal(no I don't usually use medical journals as light reading, lol)
Yes I probably dont know how reference ranges work, but I am still going to do my first cycle to see if it helps with gains and lack of energy. I just need to figure out a source if you have any recommendations. I am leaning towards Pharmacom since I dont have a source near by. I am just going with a standard 500mg test e I think to see how it goes unless you have a better recommendation.
I wasn't really commenting on his exact situation, I was more commenting that you can fall within medical "normal" testosterone guidelines for your age and actually be low.Anything that tries to sell you on age test levels for specific age groups is a marketing gimmick plain and simple.
Define bottom end end of normal and there's a chance we can be in agreement but 409 is not bottom end of normal, It's just normal. Many symptoms of low test are also symptoms of a thousand other things but once someone is convinced they have low test there's no reasoning with them, which is only to their own detriment since they stop looking for the REAL cause of their issues.
Oh, and also in the article there was a large section on how what the medical community says is "normal" test levels for men is totally wrong and way too low.