proviron anyone used it?

[knightmare999]

You are asking him to demonstrate a negative.

He's stated that he had evidence. I asked him to present the evidence, as I would like to read it and correct my misunderstanding.

 

[knightmare999]

Quick word on wtf SHBG is/does https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2080856

From that document:

"
Knowledge of SHBG concentration also enables a calculation of free testosterone (the 'derived' free testosterone")
another extremely sensitive index of abnormal
androgen status.
The finding of a low SHBG is significant and
has several important implications.
(i) Total testosterone and SHBG concentrations
are partially interdependent. A suppressed
SHBG in the presence of a high normal or
slightly elevated total testosterone infers an
increase in 'bioavailable' androgen with a
consequent increase in peripheral androgen
activity.
"

Im sorry if I'm misinterpreting this, but I'm still understanding this as reduced SHBG increases free testosterone. Or rather, free testosterone is not reduced as much by lower SHBG levels.
Interested because this would change some of the purported effects of Mast, etc (which supposedly increase free test due to effects on SHBG).
Thanks again.

 

[therealkozmo]

SHBG binds to test. If SHBG is lowered then more testosterone is free and unbound.

 

[PillarofBalance]

From that document:

"
Knowledge of SHBG concentration also enables a calculation of free testosterone (the 'derived' free testosterone")
another extremely sensitive index of abnormal
androgen status.
The finding of a low SHBG is significant and
has several important implications.
(i) Total testosterone and SHBG concentrations
are partially interdependent. A suppressed
SHBG in the presence of a high normal or
slightly elevated total testosterone infers an
increase in 'bioavailable' androgen with a
consequent increase in peripheral androgen
activity.
"

Im sorry if I'm misinterpreting this, but I'm still understanding this as reduced SHBG increases free testosterone. Or rather, free testosterone is not reduced as much by lower SHBG levels.
Interested because this would change some of the purported effects of Mast, etc (which supposedly increase free test due to effects on SHBG).
Thanks again.

This was my understanding of it yes. But it binds to more than just testosterone. Does it have an affinity for test? I don't know. I think we could use a thread devotes to exploring SHBG. If you got time you mind kicking it off?

 

[Heybro]

I like to run it in all my cycles, for me it makes the cycles much more effective , I don't need to use an AE, and makes me want to **** Anthony that moves, no need for viagra etc..., much like caber, it makes you want to have sex, it just doesn't give you a hard on.

 

[TrickWilliams]

I like to run it in all my cycles, for me it makes the cycles much more effective , I don't need to use an AE, and makes me want to **** Anthony

Who is Anthony?

 

[BigSwolePump]

Who is Anthony?

I am not sure but I hope an AE is some kind of contraceptive.

 

[DocDePanda187123]

I'll try and post up some of the things I've found later on tonight.

 

[DocDePanda187123]

This was my understanding of it yes. But it binds to more than just testosterone. Does it have an affinity for test? I don't know. I think we could use a thread devotes to exploring SHBG. If you got time you mind kicking it off?

I think the only thing that SHBG has a stronger binding affinity for than test is DHT.

 

[knightmare999]

I'll try and post up some of the things I've found later on tonight.

Thanks, Doc. I started a thread on SHBG last night if you want to post it there.

Regards.

 

[knightmare999]

I think the only thing that SHBG has a stronger binding affinity for than test is DHT.

I bring this question up in the SHBG thread, due to DHT derivatives (e.g., Mast, Winny) and their effects on SHBG.

Thanks again, doc.

 

[therealkozmo]

Cialis doesn't raise libido

 

[Chaos501]

Maybe if your goal is giant loads... otherwise cialis is a better route.

 

[anaballs]

Not sure what you meant by freeing up test? Doesn't Proviron help out make test by itself or are you saying in combination with a test base, it would "free up more test"?

Like what? I like the idea of what it says it can do. Lowering estrogen while freeing up test. I mean I know an AI can help with lowering estrogen sides but what would free up test. Or is that really not worth doing?

 

[Monster Gear]

I use it in the 50-75mm cycle, this is a very good product, a strong adrogen that enhances the effects of steroids