tren issues/ substitute?

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I have used tren several times with great results. All of a sudden it started precipitating horrific body acne. It has happened twice. Can anyone recommend an alternative? I like masteron quite a bit but the results are very mild. Essentially, I want tren back but can't tolerate the sides anymore. Advice/opinions welcome.

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I get moon face with deca. any way to counter that? Looking to get lean and hard.
 
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Just test. small dose now but plan on 500mg enanthate with something that will help with strength and muscle density. If I could add something to offset deca's bloating effect I would be all for it. I'm older and have some joint issues so it would be ideal.
 

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Tren really has no substitute to be honest. You would have to mix a shit load of compounds to get a relatively close effect but not exact
 

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What's your doseage on the tren?
 

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Have you tried cleaning up (taking control of) your diet.
 
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I think my tren days are, in fact, over. Masteron is fairly weak but is helpful with no sides. I think that is where I'm at at this point. Thanks.
 

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Get bloods see where e2 is at. If it's out of range work on that with adex.

If that's not it you can see a dermatologist. There are scripted soaps that work quite well or in some cases antibiotics are needed.

But all that for tren makes you wonder if it's worth it.

Yes it is.
 

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I have heard some bad stories with ache while on tren. If you have a problem with and and can't figure it out, drop the idea. There's other compounds out there. You said Deca was a problem so look into NPP. You MAY see less of a bloat.... may.
 
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I'm currently running crap tren and get some mild acne but no other sides
 

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1-test cyp aka DHB if you can get your hands on it
 

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