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    First Lean Bulk Cycle Help

    Hello

    Can anyone offer me advice on how to go about first lean bulking cycle,



    whats the most ideal compounds for strenght and size gains but nothing too hardcore that will shut my natural test production down afterwards in the long run.

    how should I plab the end of my cycle? Is it best to gradually ween off instead of goin cold turkey. How does PCT work and what can I do to maximis gains on cycle and keep what ive gained after cycle?

    And any other advice in general?

    Any help greatly appreciated
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    Aren't you supposed to be on pct now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PillarofBalance View Post
    Aren't you supposed to be on pct now?
    Yes I did do about 1 full cycles before and 2 half cycles which is why im here asking for help...because they were half and I didnt know what I was doing.

    That was 6 months ago so And my everything is back to normal (mainly my natural T which I was most worried about)

    I didnt bother mention that above because some members on here would hang me for being a “knucklehead” think I was reffered to one time on here lol.

    But that aside I want to do a proper cycle and have it well planned and executed this time and my nutrition and training on point etc.

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    We do have lots of threads here with all that basic info. I would suggest that you start with the top few threads here:

    https://www.ugbodybuilding.com/forum...cle-Discussion
    Last edited by DF; 12-05-2017 at 10:29 AM.

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    Still sounds like u have no idea what you're doing. U need to read up on the basics of using steroids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ECKSRATED View Post
    Still sounds like u have no idea what you're doing. U need to read up on the basics of using steroids.
    To clarify this for the OP because I don't think he knows what he doesn't know

    1. Blood work before during and after cycles- what to test for
    2. Esters - What are they and how do they affect pin schedules cycle lengths when to start pct
    3. Testosterone versus other injectables
    4. Proper progression of cycles
    5. Appropriate dosing

    That's probably enough for now.

    If you have gotten off to a rough start you should start from the beginning and do things right. You will likely find better gains less sides with less doses and compounds.
    Rest in Peace Robot Lord. First round of Natty Boh is on me when I make it up there with you brother.

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    Oman, your greenness hints at something else that wasn't addressed. Do you know how to eat to accomplish your goals?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PillarofBalance View Post
    To clarify this for the OP because I don't think he knows what he doesn't know

    1. Blood work before during and after cycles- what to test for
    2. Esters - What are they and how do they affect pin schedules cycle lengths when to start pct
    3. Testosterone versus other injectables
    4. Proper progression of cycles
    5. Appropriate dosing

    That's probably enough for now.

    If you have gotten off to a rough start you should start from the beginning and do things right. You will likely find better gains less sides with less doses and compounds.
    Ive got talking to a trainer he gave me a meal plan to start lean bulking, going to detox off sugar and processed foods and change up my training routine. Then after a while he will help me with doing a cycle ans all the info I need to know. Thanks for the help guys and I will do my research on steroids on my own aswell.

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    Any exogenous test that is greater then your own body will produce, will shut you right down and you will run on the injected test only. PCT is important to get back up and running and a lot of guys screw that part up. If the cycle is expected to make quality improvements then you gotta know your own test production is no longer in the equation. You need to do a bit more homework and make sure your getting in enough quality foods.
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