Stupid things that Doctors say!

[IHI]

"your test level is in the 600's, how the fuuuk do you still have hair"

your OBGYN was probably just curious since we’re long into the age of “dolphin smooth”:32 (20):

 

[jennerrator]

your OBGYN was probably just curious since we’re long into the age of “dolphin smooth”:32 (20):

lol...this is true shit from being on TRT...my GP/Hormone Dr. decided we should check it after being on TRT and somehow it showed my test level in the 600's this was a long time ago...I actually posted my blood test in a MOD thread asking WTF...LMAO...nobody knows why that shit happened but all is well since

 

[SFGiants]

"Let me check your prostate one more time just to be sure"

POB :32 (16): volunteers for student's to learn to feel the prostate!

 

[SFGiants]

Holy shit that Doc sounds like a real shit bag... no need for TRT at those levels. That’s the bullshit I’m talking about low levels are much more dangerous for a man than elevated levels! What an asshat!

No they aren't, High level are more dangerous.

Most men living have low after a certain age some sooner, high too high not monitored by your doctor causes damage.

 

[SFGiants]

No, the highlighted part is bullshit.

No shit, lol

 

[TRUSTNME]

I think most of our doctors learned from us. After seeing specialist and being ok for either hcg or test. He stated if you want more children later, will do the hcg. I decline that. My family doctor wrote me for Test. I asked if he could write me for arimidex. He checks on his laptop and says that's for cancer. So I had to make another appointment for specialist just to have him ok the anti-estrogen. I'm sure he if continued to read it would of told him more. Now he is writing scripts for the whole town without any issues

 

[DieYoungStrong]

Is this one of those threads where we are going to pretend that steroids don't cause any health issues or side effects? Let's keep our heads buried in the sand...

Not talking about true trt.

 

[Bro Bundy]

Is this one of those threads where we are going to pretend that steroids don't cause any health issues or side effects? Let's keep our heads buried in the sand...

Not talking about true trt.

right LOL im pretty sure I hear more stupid things dumb meatheads say

 

[Chaos501]

Been on trt for yrs using Endo at the states largest research hospital. Go in for physical with new family doc since mine retired, first words out of her mouth after she gazes over my file- “i see your on testosterone replacement, you really need to stop doing that, it will kill you”

was just dumbfounded, all i could say was id rather die feeling normal than live longer feeling like the piece of garbage i was before treatment.

I had a doc say this same shit to me and it was a MALE DOC!!! I just don’t get it man. Seems like people around here are more educated on this than most doctors are!! Shit is irritating!

 

[Chaos501]

Is this one of those threads where we are going to pretend that steroids don't cause any health issues or side effects? Let's keep our heads buried in the sand...

Not talking about true trt.

absolutely not! But I seen where one of the founders said start a thread “dumb shit docs say” I thought it would be funny and now we have the thread... if we were to sit here and list off the side effects of running cycles we would clearly acknowledge the side effects shit most threads name them anyways. This thread is for a laugh because we can’t deny the fact that doctors say some dumb shit in reference to testosterone levels at least from my experience and it appears it’s not only my experience. There are plenty of side effects to talk about shit that’s why I run only test and deca for the most part I get sides like a MF from a lot of other steroids...

 

[Chaos501]

No they aren't, High level are more dangerous.

Most men living have low after a certain age some sooner, high too high not monitored by your doctor causes damage.

Guess I say this because I’ve been at the low level 275 at the age of 26 after coming back from Iraq... I felt like shit!!!! And lead to a shot ton more problems. And my levels have been higher since and even higher since I started powerlifting. And have had plenty of blood work done and prostate levels checked and prostate checked for enlargement... so I guess it’s a biased opinion. Take it as you will.

 

[Jin]

Guess I say this because I’ve been at the low level 275 at the age of 26 after coming back from Iraq... I felt like shit!!!! And lead to a shot ton more problems. And my levels have been higher since and even higher since I started powerlifting. And have had plenty of blood work done and prostate levels checked and prostate checked for enlargement... so I guess it’s a biased opinion. Take it as you will.

Your experience makes perfect sense.

The effects of low T are apparent immediately and are very unpleasant, but not life threatening.

The side effects of elevated T over time are mostly undetectable without medical evaluation and can lead to life-shortening cardiac events.

Getting bloodwork and psa is great, but just because they're good, don't assume there are no sides from super physiological levels of exogenous test.

 

[Chaos501]

Your experience makes perfect sense.

The effects of low T are apparent immediately and are very unpleasant, but not life threatening.

The side effects of elevated T over time are mostly undetectable without medical evaluation and can lead to life-shortening cardiac events.

Getting bloodwork and psa is great, but just because they're good, don't assume there are no sides from super physiological levels of exogenous test.

Your tact is much appreciated! And yea I know there are sides of elevated T levels I guess I choose the sides of elevated levels over low levels... again just my opinion. I had depression and ed and many other issues to go along with it when it was so low. With that being said I learn every day from others by keeping an open mind and not assuming I know everything. I appreciate an educated mind when it comes to this but some people just just approach it in a manner that makes it hard to take their advice.

 

[Jin]

And yea I know there are sides of elevated T levels I guess I choose the sides of elevated levels over low levels... again just my opinion.

I had depression and ed and many other issues to go along with it when it was so low.

I was in the same boat as you: no joy in life, no motivation, no sex drive, etc.

The healthiest solution is to just run a regular trt dose year round. This eliminates 100% of the low T sides while minimizing risk from injecting test.

If you're like me though, you're running 4x+ more gear than trt half the year.

The point is, even though we're running cycles as responsibly as we can, what we're doing has consequences and eventually they'll catch up to us. Don't kid yourself and think otherwise!

 

[SFGiants]

Guess I say this because I’ve been at the low level 275 at the age of 26 after coming back from Iraq... I felt like shit!!!! And lead to a shot ton more problems. And my levels have been higher since and even higher since I started powerlifting. And have had plenty of blood work done and prostate levels checked and prostate checked for enlargement... so I guess it’s a biased opinion. Take it as you will.

I can appreciate your opinion but as a board of learning and teaching I have to stick with facts.

I have been both low and way too high and felt worse way to high but this is just my opinion and experience though the fact remains too high is way more troublesome then too low.

 

[Jin]

I can appreciate your opinion but as a board of learning and teaching I have to stick with facts.

I have been both low and way too high and felt worse way to high but this is just my opinion and experience though the fact remains too high is way more troublesome then too low.

What was you experience at too high a level? Was e2, hematocrit and bp in range?

I've never considered one could feel poorly solely due to increased test levels.

 

[Chaos501]

I was in the same boat as you: no joy in life, no motivation, no sex drive, etc.

The healthiest solution is to just run a regular trt dose year round. This eliminates 100% of the low T sides while minimizing risk from injecting test.

If you're like me though, you're running 4x+ more gear than trt half the year.

The point is, even though we're running cycles as responsibly as we can, what we're doing has consequences and eventually they'll catch up to us. Don't kid yourself and think otherwise!

Agreed and im right there with ya 100% we have to accept the consequences of our choices.

 

[Jin]

Back to the topic at hand.

All of these were Japanese doctors:

came back from Thailand. After 2 weeks of diarrhea I ask for antibiotics.

He says: I recommend you don't drink cold water.

Same doctor.

I have a big lump under my arm (turns out to be cancer). I ask him to recommend a surgeon to remove it.

"Does it hurt?"
No.
"Then I don't recommend you get it removed"

 

[Chaos501]

I can appreciate your opinion but as a board of learning and teaching I have to stick with facts.

I have been both low and way too high and felt worse way to high but this is just my opinion and experience though the fact remains too high is way more troublesome then too low.

Understood. And I can respect your opinion also as we all know we all respond differently. I have had the worse experience with low T. Mine right now are damn high probably around the 3,000 mark and I feel great... I manage my e2 and bp and that helps a lot. If I didn’t do that I would feel like total dog shit! Lol. I do love this board so much intelligence and information. I can continue to learn every day!

 

[Mr P]

your test is 1,400 to high you can suffer a heart attack if you continue..