Heating Up Gear

mrmichael

Senior Member
Joined
Mar 17, 2017
Messages
103
Reaction score
9
Points
0
Does reheating gear over and over degrade the hormone? I'm finding mixed reviews online about hormones degrading in heat.

I've been heating my test E 250 and 300s (The 300 crashed into crystal a while back) and I used a hair dryer that does not go above 124F.
I have been holding the hair dryer close to it for about 1-3 minutes maybe (Yes Prob Over kill) and Giving it swirls every 30 seconds or so till the crystal turns into liquid oil again and when I hold it up into the light, I see tons of little specs all over the oil. Then I draw a mL and inject.

So Do you guys think the test is degraded from doing this? I thought boiling point was 212F and most guys use this to brew the gear in the first place, so seems like 124F isn't much of a big deal or am I wrong?

@Mrrip
If someone can tag him onto here or me
 

mrmichael

Senior Member
Joined
Mar 17, 2017
Messages
103
Reaction score
9
Points
0
EDIT: Is the Melting Point of A Particular Steroid the point of which if u pass it by 1 degree that it will begin to break down the hormone?
If So it seems the lowest Steroids melting point is about 150 and that being tren e....
 

Capt'n Ron

Elite
SI Founding Member
Joined
Sep 12, 2012
Messages
653
Reaction score
150
Points
43
I’m no chemist but if you can hold the vial to draw it up you’re not causing any appreciable degradation of the hormone. Especially a 10ml vial doing 1 ml doses. I used to warm my gear every time I pinned just to make it flow better through a 25GA. Now I just do it room temp and take my time. If it crashed do what you have to to put it back in solution, or you could toss it.
 

PillarofBalance

Elite
SI Founding Member
Joined
Feb 6, 2012
Messages
20,402
Reaction score
18,204
Points
0
124 isn't going to damage the whoremoan. You should limit the time it spends at that temp.
 

mrmichael

Senior Member
Joined
Mar 17, 2017
Messages
103
Reaction score
9
Points
0
124 isn't going to damage the whoremoan. You should limit the time it spends at that temp.


Once I'm done with these 2 vials, next one will be warmed up with warm water over sink OR low hair dryer setting with a distance from the vial and less time overall heating it up.

If 124 wont damage it, then why do u say limit it? I read test e melt point is 97F....................So I'm confused why would it not be damaged
 

jrsgym

Senior Member
Joined
Dec 4, 2017
Messages
167
Reaction score
48
Points
0
I'm a little confused. Why is there specs and why isn't it staying suspended? I think I'd have to trash it and start again from scratch rather than heat and inject. Couldn't it crash at injection site? That would be painful.
When I converted fina pellets, if it was a little dusty/cloudy I would filter again. Sometimes added BA or BB if there was suspension issues.
I'm far from chemist, though.
 

stonetag

Elite
Joined
Dec 2, 2013
Messages
7,405
Reaction score
6,282
Points
283
Just to be clear the boiling point of water is 212 deg., oils boil at a WAY higher temp, probably around double that of water.
 

PillarofBalance

Elite
SI Founding Member
Joined
Feb 6, 2012
Messages
20,402
Reaction score
18,204
Points
0
Once I'm done with these 2 vials, next one will be warmed up with warm water over sink OR low hair dryer setting with a distance from the vial and less time overall heating it up.

If 124 wont damage it, then why do u say limit it? I read test e melt point is 97F....................So I'm confused why would it not be damaged

If kept at an elevated temp over time it MAY degrade. There are other factors most of which have to do with contaminant in the raw powder that doesn't get filtered like acids and such.

I'm a little confused. Why is there specs and why isn't it staying suspended? I think I'd have to trash it and start again from scratch rather than heat and inject. Couldn't it crash at injection site? That would be painful.
When I converted fina pellets, if it was a little dusty/cloudy I would filter again. Sometimes added BA or BB if there was suspension issues.
I'm far from chemist, though.

It's a solution not a suspension and that's an important distinction. Crashing can be caused by several factors. It can happen to a bottle straight from the pharmacy. Check out the instructions for Watson test cypionate. Says so in their packaging.
 

TRUSTNME

Senior Member
Joined
Jan 2, 2018
Messages
174
Reaction score
47
Points
0
Russia is so cold some of their supplements are crashing due to cold. mostly cyp. So odd.
 

mrmichael

Senior Member
Joined
Mar 17, 2017
Messages
103
Reaction score
9
Points
0
If kept at an elevated temp over time it MAY degrade. There are other factors most of which have to do with contaminant in the raw powder that doesn't get filtered like acids and such.



It's a solution not a suspension and that's an important distinction. Crashing can be caused by several factors. It can happen to a bottle straight from the pharmacy. Check out the instructions for Watson test cypionate. Says so in their packaging.

SO is reheating it for 1-3 minute MAX twice per week too much and do u think its not good anymore? I Draw 2ml out of each vial during the week. So 4mL total.

There is no sign of color change or anything and particicles still in it when I shake it without heat OR even when I add heat to it.

Just to be clear the boiling point of water is 212 deg., oils boil at a WAY higher temp, probably around double that of water.

Its not the oil, its the hormone..
 

Capt'n Ron

Elite
SI Founding Member
Joined
Sep 12, 2012
Messages
653
Reaction score
150
Points
43
Dude, if your that worried send it to me. I’ll personally test it and send you back a report. Seriously though, melting point is the temp when the compound in crystalline form changes to a liquid form not when it decomposes into something else. Really if you can hold the vial in your hand you didn’t overheat it. If you toss it in the oven at 450f and it does break down it is not going to change to a poison and kill you. POB is right. The bigger risk is improper handling, contamination, or poor technique while injecting, resulting in an infection.
 

PillarofBalance

Elite
SI Founding Member
Joined
Feb 6, 2012
Messages
20,402
Reaction score
18,204
Points
0
SO is reheating it for 1-3 minute MAX twice per week too much and do u think its not good anymore? I Draw 2ml out of each vial during the week. So 4mL total.

There is no sign of color change or anything and particicles still in it when I shake it without heat OR even when I add heat to it.



Its not the oil, its the hormone..

You can relax it's probably just fine.
 

Bicepticon

Elite
SI Founding Member
Joined
Aug 7, 2012
Messages
303
Reaction score
61
Points
28
I have had to reheat some Watson cyp!
never effected the strength of the compound, though.
 

JuiceTrain

Elite
Joined
Aug 11, 2017
Messages
5,969
Reaction score
7,416
Points
283
I usually place the vial in a cup of hot water (faucet strength hot) for about 3mins or so.....does the trick
 
  • Like
Reactions: Jin

Jin

Retired UG Staff
Joined
Jan 20, 2017
Messages
13,853
Reaction score
22,715
Points
441
I usually place the vial in a cup of hot water (faucet strength hot) for about 3mins or so.....does the trick

Me too.

JT been really playing it straight lately. Run out of laced weed?
 

JuiceTrain

Elite
Joined
Aug 11, 2017
Messages
5,969
Reaction score
7,416
Points
283
Me too.

JT been really playing it straight lately. Run out of laced weed?

Haven't smoked since July,
I do Muay Thai and MMA now instead of lifting.....weed throws me off from fighting
 

Jin

Retired UG Staff
Joined
Jan 20, 2017
Messages
13,853
Reaction score
22,715
Points
441
Haven't smoked since July,
I do Muay Thai and MMA now instead of lifting.....weed throws me off from fighting

Still doesn't explain your complete lack of randomness theses days. You depressed bro?
 

JuiceTrain

Elite
Joined
Aug 11, 2017
Messages
5,969
Reaction score
7,416
Points
283
Nah just haven't been in a humorous mood lately is all
 
Joined
Sep 11, 2016
Messages
0
Reaction score
572
Points
0
i dont get this convo at all.iam in Scotland ,i dont leave my gear outside or anywhere ,were it would be cold.whats wrong with keeping your gear in a suitable place.the only time I apply heat is for a nice flow into my body. And i do this by placing the loaded pin under my arm pit for 3 -5 min.this gets my juice near the same temp as my body temp.if i ever come across a 10mil bottle thats has crystallised (only once)then i place the vial in a cup of hot water for 5 mins and presto all good.
 

SFGiants

Elite
Joined
Apr 29, 2012
Messages
10,621
Reaction score
14,922
Points
383
You won't ruin the hormone, a microwave can even be used!
 

New Threads

Top