It doesn't matter because there isn't a research chem retailer with actual IGF on planet earth.
how would you really know for sure?... so IGF is not real? or IGF is real ... and just not available to the public?
Haha yeah igf is real. But it's extremely hard to get and very ****ing expensive. This shit they are selling isn't real. And peptides in general are quite weak and frankly a waste of money. They do very little if anything at all, cost a bunch of money, have ridiculous dosing schedules...
You will never hear someone who is all jacked and shredded and vascular give credit to peps for the help.
ok.. just trying to learn...... so how about Frag..... gorp-2 and CJC... are these real or is it the same as IGF 1.......
All shit. Ask my wallet.
Save you cash for real GH, if you can find that. No pep is worth the money paid for it. 2010/2011 days peps were just ok, nothing great. But if you could find real LR3, it would come from a medical lab, be $650+ a vial and you would need a script or a rogue doc to write you up for it.
Pretty much impossible. Move on bud
I second this. I was basically a pin cushion for blood tests and experimenting and saw no results until i stopped using peptides and started using real HGH
dont spend another dollar man
edit... I forgot the frag .. taking 400mcg in morning before cardioI hear Ya... I was NEVER implying that peptides can take the place of gear... And I appreciate all the feedback... I think some peptides are effective to a degree and I'm learning that you have to be in a fasted state for them to work better... if your lifting and eating 3400 calories day... no..peptides won't work..... but I'll find out soon enough.... I already got all the peptides from 3 different vendors... i'm taking pics everyday.. and we'll see... I'm going to leave IGF 1 Lr3 out of it as well
started
Jan 2 with TB 500 2 shots 2.5mg for the week 5mg total 247lbs planning on weaning off next week b/c injury appears healed
Jan 6 GHRP 2 100mcg CJC/no dac 100mcg with CJC with Dac 1mg most likely increase dose as the time goes on
Ill be adding melonatan MT1 shortly.... I'm a redhead
as of today 241lbs
So My march 1 well see.... no BS
I hear Ya... I was NEVER implying that peptides can take the place of gear... And I appreciate all the feedback... I think some peptides are effective to a degree and I'm learning that you have to be in a fasted state for them to work better... if your lifting and eating 3400 calories day... no..peptides won't work..... but I'll find out soon enough.... I already got all the peptides from 3 different vendors... i'm taking pics everyday.. and we'll see... I'm going to leave IGF 1 Lr3 out of it as well
started
Jan 2 with TB 500 2 shots 2.5mg for the week 5mg total 247lbs planning on weaning off next week b/c injury appears healed
Jan 6 GHRP 2 100mcg CJC/no dac 100mcg with CJC with Dac 1mg most likely increase dose as the time goes on
Ill be adding melonatan MT1 shortly.... I'm a redhead
as of today 241lbs
So My march 1 well see.... no BS
Your experiment ending March 1 doesn't mean much. You won't be able to say these gains came from diet and lifting but these gains those were because of peps.
I mean read what you wrote
"Some... are effective to a degree"
So not all are fully effective?
"Have to be in a fasted state to work"
If you can't eat then you are losing ground.
theres a lot of different peptides ghrp 2/ghrp 6/ ipam etc.... i'm testing different combos and different vendors.... All I'm seeing is if the peptides are effective... will they assist me obtaining my goal quicker..do I gain little size etc. I'm talking about a recomp... maybe they're some older folks out there looking for a little boost. Ive done this for 40 yrs... And I know my body.... now that I'm older Ive noticed that what use to work.. doesn't work any more... So if I can take some peptides and get to where I need to be in 2 months that would normally take me 6 months then... it was worth it to me. what did I spend? 450 bucks total on these...big ****in deal..... using the b500 to heal my elbow from an acute injury was worth 10K to me..isn't tb 500 a peptide. whats ghrp 2 selling for? 16 dollars........ Not everyone can take gear... I have only 1 kidney....
lastly.. sorry I wasn't more clear on the fasting... you have to intermittent fast... I only eat 10am to 6pm... so the fasted state is in the morning... you can gain plenty of muscle IF
yeah... coming to realize that... thanks for your help...actually going to wrap up the peptide thing and readjust... just use TB 500.. and a little MT2.... Never thought I put on big Mass with these but yea.. got a little over zealous on these... If I started a TEST run.. would I use a short ester or long for the first go?