Suppliment Advice.

[Anthropomorphism]

Been Training for over 10yr's
Although I do consider Myself in the know with regards to food. Training.
I'm really now looking into using a Suppliment
to aid in Further progress.
My goal is to hit My natural genetic potential.
I've looked into whey protein.
But can it really be that more benificial if My protein content is high.
Maybe it's not neccercery but surely there must be a good proven Suppliment that really does help along with the diet I have already.
Any Idea's recommendation''s Appreciated.

 

[Robdjents]

You will get mixed feelings regarding this..i personally do not drink whey or any other protein because i get all of it from meats and other food throughout the day..IMO if you are having trouble getting it all in a supplement wont hurt you but it is by no means magic..with that said i do keep a container of protien in my office for emergencies...hope that helps best of luck...btw you are pretty huge already if thats you in the pic!!

 

[Jin]

I find it hard to believe that a big guy that's been lifting for 10 years is just now looking into whey protein.

But hey, I'm a skeptic.

If thats you in the photo the, may I suggest steroids? Seems like you're ready Bruce Banner.

 

[Uncle manny]

Creatine monohydrate! A great natural supplement for strength and even a little size gains. Doesn’t work for some but it’s really cheap anyways.

 

[Anthropomorphism]

You will get mixed feelings regarding this..i personally do not drink whey or any other protein because i get all of it from meats and other food throughout the day..IMO if you are having trouble getting it all in a supplement wont hurt you but it is by no means magic..with that said i do keep a container of protien in my office for emergencies...hope that helps best of luck...btw you are pretty huge already if thats you in the pic!!

Hiya Rob.
My issue is not that I'm not consuming enough.
I mean just how much do I really need.
Maybe it's not extra protein I need.
Although I can see it's advantage if one needs protein at a quick fix no time to cook basis.
I just want to push My natural genetic potential to the max before I even think of gear.

 

[Anthropomorphism]

I find it hard to believe that a big guy that's been lifting for 10 years is just now looking into whey protein.

But hey, I'm a skeptic.

If thats you in the photo the, may I suggest steroids? Seems like you're ready Bruce Banner.

Hi Jin.
Unfortunately yep that's Me..Haha
We seem to be on the same track with regards to supplementa then.
I've just relied on food.
But I can't possibly eat anymore. You see I just wouldn't stop. Haha think I've 2 stomachs lol.
I don't want to think of gear at this moment.
need to know in My soul I can't progress naturally
or acceed My genetical potential.
I'm currently around 18st in the photo.
I was nearly 21 when I stopped due to injury.
I'd been back training nearly 5wks when I took that photo having been off 2yr's.

 

[Anthropomorphism]

Creatine monohydrate! A great natural supplement for strength and even a little size gains. Doesn’t work for some but it’s really cheap anyways.

Creatine. do you need to spyke insulin via fruit juice
or just take with water.
There's mixed feelings on this.
And could it help Me take My progress further

 

[Robdjents]

Hiya Rob.
My issue is not that I'm not consuming enough.
I mean just how much do I really need.
Maybe it's not extra protein I need.
Although I can see it's advantage if one needs protein at a quick fix no time to cook basis.
I just want to push My natural genetic potential to the max before I even think of gear.

In that case my advice is to start counting all of your calories and force yourself to eat the correct amounts...if my math is right youre 23 now? youre already a beast for sure..id say get on a structured diet and try that for a while and see what happens...im no expert either but you may already be close to your genetic potential..i like your attitude too! youre definitly in good company here!

 

[Uncle manny]

You can take the creatine with water your body will absorb it either way. What it will do is help you squeeze out an extra rep or 2 which definitely helps in the natural lifter who is trying beat their last work out by extra reps/sets. Also water rentention from the creatine can leave you feeling a little more full and thicker.

 

[Anthropomorphism]

In that case my advice is to start counting all of your calories and force yourself to eat the correct amounts...if my math is right youre 23 now? youre already a beast for sure..id say get on a structured diet and try that for a while and see what happens...im no expert either but you may already be close to your genetic potential..i like your attitude too! youre definitly in good company here!

Thank you for the age compliment. Haha I'm in My very early 40s haha. I was referring to Being around 21st when I stopped working out due to rotator cuff injury.
My photo is Me 5wks back in training at 18st.
I'm guessing it may not be a protein issue
But maybe it could be a specific alement of nutrition
That I could boost to progress.
I'm not referring to gear.
but maybe a macro micro nutrient I may not be getting enough off
Hence looking into a supplement.
If all that makes sense.
I lost Myself for a Moment..Haha
I've never counted calaries.
Just went on instinct.

 

[Jin]

Hi Jin.
Unfortunately yep that's Me..Haha
We seem to be on the same track with regards to supplementa then.
I've just relied on food.
But I can't possibly eat anymore. You see I just wouldn't stop. Haha think I've 2 stomachs lol.
I don't want to think of gear at this moment.
need to know in My soul I can't progress naturally
or acceed My genetical potential.
I'm currently around 18st in the photo.
I was nearly 21 when I stopped due to injury.
I'd been back training nearly 5wks when I took that photo having been off 2yr's.

If that's really you after only 5 weeks back then I quit.

You're 252 and from your traps and shoulder separation I'd say under 17%. After 2 years off and 4 weeks back. And After 10 years you've never even considered whey?

Sorry man. I'm not buying it and I'm out.

 

[Anthropomorphism]

You can take the creatine with water your body will absorb it either way. What it will do is help you squeeze out an extra rep or 2 which definitely helps in the natural lifter who is trying beat their last work out by extra reps/sets. Also water rentention from the creatine can leave you feeling a little more full.

Thank you for advice.
My findings on this is there's a loading phase
And some say to take 5/10g creatine from the
offset without loading.
Would this be something I would have to
try by trial and error.
I make a really good post workout meal wich I blend
It My magic receipe. you could say.
So I could use it in that.

 

[Robdjents]

Thank you for the age compliment. Haha I'm in My very early 40s haha. I was referring to Being around 21st when I stopped working out due to rotator cuff injury.
My photo is Me 5wks back in training at 18st.
I'm guessing it may not be a protein issue
But maybe it could be a specific alement of nutrition
That I could boost to progress.
I'm not referring to gear.
but maybe a macro micro nutrient I may not be getting enough off
Hence looking into a supplement.
If all that makes sense.
I lost Myself for a Moment..Haha
I've never counted calaries.
Just went on instinct.

if you're in your 40s and look like you do and don't do gear...i don't think I can help..if anything I should be taking advice from you

 

[Uncle manny]

I see so your speaking stone as in weight. Damn dude you must be one of those genetic freaks if you hit 21st(294lbs!?) naturally now your 18(252lbs). Even that weight is tough for some guys to hit on the juice.

 

[Uncle manny]

Thank you for advice.
My findings on this is there's a loading phase
And some say to take 5/10g creatine from the
offset without loading.
Would this be something I would have to
try by trial and error.
I make a really good post workout meal wich I blend
It My magic receipe. you could say.
So I could use it in that.

Yea 5-10g a day is all you need no loading phase necessary.

 

[Anthropomorphism]

if you're in your 40s and look like you do and don't do gear...i don't think I can help..if anything I should be taking advice from you

Maybe it''s My Jamaican heritage wich keeps Me young..Hahaha.
Ive appreciated the advice from all so far.
A really looking forward to helping others if I can too like you guy''s.
It's about sharing our pool of info.
We're always learning but I can only say advise on what I do and how it's effected Me wich I'm happy to share if it helps just one single person than its a start hey.

 

[Robdjents]

If that's really you after only 5 weeks back then I quit.

You're 252 and from your traps and shoulder separation I'd say under 17%. After 2 years off and 4 weeks back. And After 10 years you've never even considered whey?

Sorry man. I'm not buying it and I'm out.

did we just get trolled? context is so hard to read..

 

[Anthropomorphism]

I see so your speaking stone as in weight. Damn dude you must be one of those genetic freaks if you hit 21st(294lbs!?) naturally now your 18(252lbs). Even that weight is tough for some guys to hit on the juice.

You see I train alone and have no one to compare with. In terms of gains strength etc.
I understand we try to be better and compete with ourselves.
I was I think nearly 13st when I started
And put on around 40Ib for My first 3yr's
So I've basically tried to change the body fat /lean tissue ratio that's all.

 

[Jin]

did we just get trolled? context is so hard to read..

You mean the white Jamaican guy who is natural and was close to three hundred pounds, knows nothing about supplementation, took 2 years off and is in better shape than 95% of the board after 5 weeks? Nah. No way.

there'sa bunch of other inconsistencies, but those are the blatant ones.

 

[Anthropomorphism]

did we just get trolled? context is so hard to read..

You see this is the issue I get and the reason I train alone.
I'm a genuine guy a loving devoting father.
And quite frankly very saddened as the very kind of forum I look to I get this.
I'm sorry you feel this way.