I doubt it. PCT makes little sense to anyone who uses steroids for the vast majority of your life. why would you do a 3 month cycle making big gains then spend the next 3 months dealing with out of wack/low hormone levels. PCT after a cycle is spinning your wheels, if you ask me. whats the point of trying to get your natty levels back if your going to deplete them again in another couple months. I laugh at people who talk about PCT advise and also say they'll probably be on TRT in a few years. If thats the case why bother with PCT?
Seek has said many many times that no they didn't.
That doesn't make it best though.
exactly this^^^. Why bother with PCT if you say you're going to be on TRT eventually. Whats the point of trying to get your natty levels up if you're just going to crash them again? With Cruising, you'll keep more of your gains and you won't deal with big fluctuations between your hormone levels. I really don't see the point of PCT unless if your plan is to be 1 and done.I’m 29 and running my third cycle starting Monday. I plan on doing a full pct and don’t really want to go on the trt route till late 30s if I could even make it that far running 2 cycles a year. But then it gets conflicting when I think about it... I feel like f it just keep running test then part of me says to try keep my natural test up as long as I can.
the point is to get off drugs and give your body a rest..
Sterility concerns are a major consideration in my opinion for the child-rearing age AAS enhanced lifter. Outside of that, I am not aware of any empirical evidence demonstrating a significant increase in the safety profile of blasting and cruising versus those who go the cycle and PCT route.
I am sure POB or Doc or someone else could chime in with some knowledge bombs based in literature. I would be curious as to what the data, if any, demonstrates.
However, I imagine that the most we can surmise will be based on anecdotal analysis of the health profiles of each generation of AAS user. Compounds used for PCT are arguably more toxic with greater side effect profiles than many of the AAS compounds that we use (excepting tren and anadrol!).
I was placed on TRT at 20-21 due to a pituitary insufficiency, so I have never had to PCT thankfully.
Toxicity is determined by more than just the drug itself. Nolva and clomid aren’t really toxic, nor are they any worse for you than AAS. Plus, a typical PCT is about 4wks in length. Compare that vs staying on test indefinitely and the answer as to which is “safer” is a pretty easy conclusion.
Interesting viewpoint. I respect your information of course, but perhaps defining terms are in order. I used the term "toxicity" in a layman sense, not specifically in reference to organ specific tissue damage in the sense of vancomycin induced renal failure, or something to the like.
The doses we use are often higher and cumulatively for longer periods of time then they are typically used in their target population (women). Of course our body mass is higher, so dosing has not been established for men directly. Clomid has been known to cause pancreatitis, hyperlipidemias, yet probably has a higher safety profile than other drugs. Tamoxifen is linked to all sort of depressive symptoms, thrombocytopenia, cardiovascular complications, etc.
Now I am certainly not arguing for the limitless safety profile of testosterone which has an inherit cluster of adverse effects. What I am saying is are we certain that suffering the hormonal fluctuations, decreased quality of life, and potential cardiovascular complications inherit in PCT is better than cruising on a reasonable (150 mg a week) dose of exogenous testosterone. Given the number of cycles a year remains the same?
I am talking specifically about the over 30, recreational male lifter who plans on taking AAS for a long period of time. Of course the weekend warrior who does 4 cycles in his 20's is not at as great a risk as those of us who plan to use AAS for the duration of our functional lives.
Of course, the healthiest course of action would be some swimming, yoga, and a colorful produce rich diet; but that is not really why any of us are here. Again, I respect your information, hence why I pose the question to you. I need a little of dem knowledge bombs Doc.