is this too much?

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50mg dbol ED, 100mg tren A EOD, 300mg sus a week, 200mg tren mix, 200mg test cyp, and 400 mg deca per week. Armidex 1mg EOD.
Experiencing lower back pain, night sweats and slight insomnia. Plan is dbol 4 weeks and then stoping everything else except the cyp at 10 weeks and finishing weeks 11 and 12 at 400 cyp per week. Clomid and Nolva for pct.
 

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im no expert at all but if you are taking sus why take cyp?..and why tren a and a tren blend?..this just sounds complicated and a side effects nightmare...good luck welcome to the board
 

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No liver supplements? Dopamine agonist? Yeah I would say that's overkill, and poorly planned to if you have to ask.
 
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well my math adds to 600mg sus, 200 mg cyp = 800 test a week with the 50mg tren A ed and 400 tren mix = 750 tren.... seems to be after lots of research close to the max dose, but I'm only doing the ace for 4 weeks then only the mix forf the last 6
 

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what is your cycle history? surely this isn't your first?
 
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milk thisle, levichin for liver, and ive got 12 bottles 100 pins, AI and enough pct for 3 cycles. I deffinatly planned well, just curious to hear others opinions on the amount not on my ability to plan well or lack there of. But thanks
 
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this is my 4th, but I was a little foolish in not taking time off since my last cycle. this will be week 16 of a 24 week cycle
 
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started at 400 cyp, and 75 tren A ed for 8 weeks before I started this monster cycle. I'm 180 bench pressing 345
 

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Seems like a lot to me. Why so much?
 

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like I said im no expert im only about to start my first so take what I say for what it is but it sounds like big time overkill...I think you could have gotten the same result with way less gear but again im no expert...and if your 16 weeks in you might as will finish...also 24 seems long...got any before and after pics?
 

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The reason why planning well came up because this cycle seems to be complicated. No wonder you are experiencing the lower back pain, night sweats, and insomnia. Since you are doing Tren, I am guessing that you have cycled for a while.

So my "opinion" is that its overly complicated. You should see the insomnia and night sweats back off after the tren is out of your system. Good luck!

Welcome to the board.
 

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milk thisle, levichin for liver, and ive got 12 bottles 100 pins, AI and enough pct for 3 cycles. I deffinatly planned well, just curious to hear others opinions on the amount not on my ability to plan well or lack there of. But thanks

I was referring to the lengths of some of the compounds.
 

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well my math adds to 600mg sus, 200 mg cyp = 800 test a week with the 50mg tren A ed and 400 tren mix = 750 tren.... seems to be after lots of research close to the max dose, but I'm only doing the ace for 4 weeks then only the mix forf the last 6

 
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after reading a lot of post by guys that do this often, I put the numbers together and I don't think the amount I'm on is over excessive. Its excessive but not over excessive. in comparison
 

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I was just talking about the amount of testosterone and sustanon
 

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