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    Low Test, High(er) Tren - your experiences?

    This thread had to surface at some point, LOL

    Anyone run a cycle of low Test (think TRT doses around the 200-250 range) and higher Tren (300-400 and above)?

    What did you run, what were your goals and what were your results?

    Most in the game have heard how Test allegedly "competes for receptors" with the Tren, possibly negating some of the Tren benefits. Not sure I accept this theory, but on the surface it seems to have some merit.

    As Tren is far & away the more powerful of the two compounds, the thinking behind going low-Test is to "let the Tren do the work in the cycle" and just use the Test to abate sides (eg. Tren d1ck).

    Any first-hand experience is appreciated.

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    Re: Low Test, High(er) Tren - your experiences?

    Someone here has run this way

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    Re: Low Test, High(er) Tren - your experiences?

    I am running my next cycle with 250 test and 600 tren. I have not personally done this but there are 3 guys locally here that I have running it like that. One is 10 weeks in and another is 6 weeks in. Both have gotten ****in massive...the 6 weeker has really impressed me. He is up 25 lbs already and still lean. Not sure how he managed that but I do think genetics is on this guys side. So far neither of them have gotten any pimples or gyno. They are complaining of sometimes not being able to sleep or run very long on the tread mill (but this is to be expected from tren anyway). So from what I have seen with these two guys says enough....that is the way to run tren!

    Oh and there is no such thing as tren/deca dick. It should be called 19-nor dick because it occurs from prolactin for the most part. Tren actually is highly androgenic which increases sex drive and both the guys listed above make me feel like they are gonna rape me when I am around them bahaha

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    Re: Low Test, High(er) Tren - your experiences?

    Excellent feedback! I'm contemplating something very similar my next run - perhaps with the addition of some Mast - something like Test 250 / Tren 500 / Mast 400.

    Props on your boys gains on those cycles! Impressive!

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    Re: Low Test, High(er) Tren - your experiences?

    Added question - do you think the reduction in Test (relative to the Tren dosage) had anything to do with the accelerated gains / the enhanced efficacy of the Tren?

    Said differently, in your opinion, would a cycle of 500 test / 5-- tren have yielded similar results? Less?

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    Re: Low Test, High(er) Tren - your experiences?

    That's hard to say nble....gains are more relient on the diet then anything else...my opinion is that 500 & 500 would yield similar gains to 250 & 500....the difference would be noticed with less side effects using the 250/500 ratio

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    Re: Low Test, High(er) Tren - your experiences?

    Originally Posted by Cobra Strike View Post
    That's hard to say nble....gains are more relient on the diet then anything else...my opinion is that 500 & 500 would yield similar gains to 250 & 500....the difference would be noticed with less side effects using the 250/500 ratio
    That was my gut also, Cobra. Basically same / similar results but less gear & less sides. Agree 100% on the importance of diet with ANY cycle, hell even natty (ESPECIALLY natty).

    Cheers!

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    Re: Low Test, High(er) Tren - your experiences?

    I am currently running test 250 and tren 400 a week and in fourth week. So far great, up 13 lbs with zero tren sides yet. I sleep well, I still do my weekend cardio ( only a little harder) but I did have to just up my cals to 3800 the other day so hopping for some more gains fast.
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    Re: Low Test, High(er) Tren - your experiences?

    Originally Posted by Four1Thr33 View Post
    I am currently running test 250 and tren 400 a week and in fourth week. So far great, up 13 lbs with zero tren sides yet. I sleep well, I still do my weekend cardio ( only a little harder) but I did have to just up my cals to 3800 the other day so hopping for some more gains fast.
    Saw your post in the Intro Forum, Four1Thr33 - that's good progress! (candidly, thats FREAKIN' AMAZING progress in just 4 weeks). I'm leaning towards something very close to what you're running at present with the addition of some Mast for my next blast. How's your libido thus far? No sleep issues at all?

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    Re: Low Test, High(er) Tren - your experiences?

    Zero sleep issues thus far. My prami don't make me sick ither. Ya I'm
    Pretty excited. Was planning 10 week tren but 20 week total cycle. If the sides stay away I might run 15 week tren

    And libido is great. Only problem is my only option is my x wife and she is not very reliable for sex lol
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    Re: Low Test, High(er) Tren - your experiences?

    Good deal, Bro! Sorry about that reliability problem, LOL

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    Re: Low Test, High(er) Tren - your experiences?

    Lol she's Wierd. I tell her I hate her we **** like pornstars. I tell her I like her and take her out to dinner... No sex. I don't get her lol
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    Re: Low Test, High(er) Tren - your experiences?

    Lol! Thats some funny shit. I've got an ex thats the same way. Nice dinner and no sex. Be a little grouchy and standoffish and shes ready to ride my brains out. Wtf??!! 413 how long after the Tren you gonna run your test? Im curious

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    Re: Low Test, High(er) Tren - your experiences?

    Thats where i am un sure at this point.. i was originally going to Run tren for 10 weeks at 400 with test at 250 for 10 then up to 500 test for the last 10 weeks... but i might run my tren 15 weeks and test only the last 5..
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    Re: Low Test, High(er) Tren - your experiences?

    Want to keep this thread high so as to collect more input on this approach.

    Looking for hands-on experience, ideally from Bros who have run Test & Tren relatively equal (or even with Test higher than Tren) and then Test < Tren.

    Cheers,

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    Re: Low Test, High(er) Tren - your experiences?

    I`m taking notes in here, cause on compound tha really call my attention is the TREN. Good info and please keep it updated for the ones like me who wants to know more about this combo.

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    Re: Low Test, High(er) Tren - your experiences?

    Originally Posted by Four1Thr33 View Post
    Thats where i am un sure at this point.. i was originally going to Run tren for 10 weeks at 400 with test at 250 for 10 then up to 500 test for the last 10 weeks... but i might run my tren 15 weeks and test only the last 5..
    That's a good idea bro...10 weeks is to short for any enanthate imo....I like your new plan a lot better and i think you will too!

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    Re: Low Test, High(er) Tren - your experiences?

    ya that is what is going to happen at min 15 week... but i have to place an order with CVL to get me my extra tren soon..

    last night was the first night sweets.. still in week 5... but i blame this new girl i picked up last night... holy ****ing god,, my dick hurts from banging this amazing 105 lb girl 3 times ... that ass of hers is going to be my NEW AVI haha...
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    Re: Low Test, High(er) Tren - your experiences?

    i'm 9 wks in on a 12 wk cycle of prop/ace. Running Prop at 300wk and Ace at 600wk.....well at least i started that way for the first 2 weeks but then i knocked the Tren to 525wk because the night sweats were to crazy. i think i found my sweet spot. My goal was a recomp and it's been going along very well. I've only gained about 5lbs but i've leaned out quite a bit. Added about an inch to my arms so far. 1.5 inches to my chest and back area, and i'v lost almost 3 inches around my waist.

    I'm very excited to see what these last 3 wks will bring.
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    Re: Low Test, High(er) Tren - your experiences?

    dude how do u eat for a recomp... i know above is bulk and below is cut... what is it eating to your maintenance? because im loosing weight now and am eating to bulk
    Originally Posted by DarksideSix View Post
    i'm 9 wks in on a 12 wk cycle of prop/ace. Running Prop at 300wk and Ace at 600wk.....well at least i started that way for the first 2 weeks but then i knocked the Tren to 525wk because the night sweats were to crazy. i think i found my sweet spot. My goal was a recomp and it's been going along very well. I've only gained about 5lbs but i've leaned out quite a bit. Added about an inch to my arms so far. 1.5 inches to my chest and back area, and i'v lost almost 3 inches around my waist.

    I'm very excited to see what these last 3 wks will bring.
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