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    Thanks for the replies guys, I really appreciate you taking the time to help me.

    heres another question, is running the same cycle as my first one with what I’ve heard being even better quality product, a good idea?

    I really don’t want to damage my hair line (first cycle on car went fine for that) and running the 2 orals does sound stupid for my liver.

    i also about running winstrol only the last 4 weeks but again, as you said it might be stupid as well.

    test E + var would do the trick, or would I react less as it would be the second cycle ?

    sorry if my English is not good, still learning

    thanks guys !

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    You're not going to have less of a response because you ran the same cycle before. In fact, if you have ran the same cycle before you have some basis to know what to expect from it. That's part of the reason the brothers in here advocate only adding one new compound at a time. Remember, it's diet then training that give you your result. Your AAS
    is/are the catalysts that facilitates that result.

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    Sounds good !

    I also thought about something else:

    test E : week 1-12
    anavar 55mg ed (20 am - 35 pm preworkout) : week 1-8
    winstrol 40mg (20am - 20pm)

    so i don’t run 2 orals at the same time and get the finishing results with winstrol.

    of course using Tudca, and joints lubricate and arimidex.

    opinions ?

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    I would run 16 weeks of test and choose 1 oral. This is your second cycle.

    My second cycle was 16 weeks Test C at 600 and 50mg Var weeks 8-16. That's it. I see no reason to run 2 orals during a second cycle (or ever really) unless you compete.

    If you put in the work and your diet is solid you will have tremendous results without the need for 2 orals. I say pick one and go from there
    In need of dieting help? Email me at [email protected]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spongy View Post
    I would run 16 weeks of test and choose 1 oral. This is your second cycle.

    My second cycle was 16 weeks Test C at 600 and 50mg Var weeks 8-16. That's it. I see no reason to run 2 orals during a second cycle (or ever really) unless you compete.

    If you put in the work and your diet is solid you will have tremendous results without the need for 2 orals. I say pick one and go from there
    What Spongy said. I’d recommend going with the var over the winny - unless you’re trying to do a competition or something (but I don’t think you mentioned that)...but certainly no need for both.
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    Ok I’ll take your advice - test E + car only.

    my next problem is that the website I am about to order everything only has clomid, no Nolva.

    do you guys recommend any website for US delivery - or is clomid only going to work ?

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    anyone ?

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    Also I've been reading about Cardarine, and it sounds really interesting. On top of Test E and Var

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    Double check the forum rules.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viduus View Post
    Double check the forum rules.
    I believe asking about ancillaries is ok because you can order them from research chemical companies.

    Blood, sweat and years.
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    So as it’s not breaking any rules, could someone help me ? thanks guys


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