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    Quote Originally Posted by Viduus View Post
    You’re much better off slowing down the weight loss and focusing on muscle. (Jin and Spongy will probably argue that you’re not slowing down the weight loss and it’ll actually help a lot more.)

    Eating to low of calories is going to make your body shutdown a lot of things. There’s plenty of threads here that describe how it’ll even make you look softer/fatter. You keep pushing harder in the wrong direction.

    I’d say no AAS... drop the DNP. Stay at 20% and focus on building your discipline and muscle. Once you have a foundation then focus on weight loss again. If Jin and Spongy are right (and they are) you should lean out and look better “accidentally”.
    Thank you, I will stick to your tips

    will start up to 2000 calories

    protein
    fat about 60grams
    150 grams of carbohydrates

    I've noticed 6kg lost according to Dexa scan and only 1.7% bodyfat good 2kg muscles were gone for nothing

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    Quote Originally Posted by pumperalbo View Post
    Thank you, I will stick to your tips

    will start up to 2000 calories

    protein
    fat about 60grams
    150 grams of carbohydrates

    I've noticed 6kg lost according to Dexa scan and only 1.7% bodyfat good 2kg muscles were gone for nothing

    I’ve been doing the same weight lose journey as you. I was lucky to find a great trainer and to stumble on Spongy as a dietician. The guys here help keep me focused and motivated on doing the right things.

    its easy to convince ourselves to take the wrong path. Keep reminding yourself to stick to the fundamentals over the long haul.

    One other thing, you mentioned 8 weeks. Forget about that. Don’t think of it as 8 weeks and done. Think of it as phases. This will become a lifelong game for us.

    Random example - don’t actually use this
    8 weeks: build muscle base (measure with tape or how much you lift)
    8 weeks: up cardio and lose 10lbs
    4 weeks: eat at maintenance to recover
    etc etc
    “When you put your heart/soul and defecation into something so passionately it's hard not to” -Gibs

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    one cycle of test p wont solve the 20% bf issue that's for sure

    Nice 2 Meet U

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