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    Originally Posted by bvs View Post
    If you are a bit lost with diet and training (which, no offence, it sounds like you are) consider hiring a good coach. The knowledge you gain will help you throughout the rest of your lifting career, think of it as an investment rather than just a cost. A sound knowlege in these areas is the basis of any good lifter, regardless of drugs.
    Yeah man i am kinda lost. Thanks for your advice though. i will definitely look into finding a coach.

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    Originally Posted by wlancastrr View Post
    okay i think that kinda came of wrong to some of yall, i was just trying to get more advice from older people that have more experience with it because a lot of my friends are on it and they seem to be making a pretty good amount of gains and they said i should hop on it and i've been thinking about it but its kind of a big step haha i was just seeing what others thought about it.
    I can assure you those are not your friends...friends wouldnt have you take powerful hormones when you have no clue whats going on...also remember just because you are gonna wait and do steroids when the time is right doesnt mean you cant be a part of our community....this place has alot of knowledge other than info on steroids...stick around and learn kid...just be smart about what you post and where you post it..best of luck young brother.
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    Originally Posted by wlancastrr View Post
    Thanks and i dont really have a specific diet, i just try to eat stuff with a lot of protein. i know dieting is important but i really dont know too much about it so if you have any advice for that, im all ears. As far as my work outs go i just have split days like Sunday- off Monday- chest/triceps Tuesday- legs/core Wednesday- back/biceps Thursday- legs/core Friday- chest/triceps and Saturday i do body weight stuff like 200 push ups 50 pull ups 300 air squats and 250 sit ups kinda like a full body work out. You got any advice or tips for that? Just trying to learn more haha
    You'd be better off resting saturdays too instead of body weight stuff.

    Diet is the most important part of your gym results. Then training, then rest.


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    Originally Posted by wlancastrr View Post
    okay i think that kinda came of wrong to some of yall, i was just trying to get more advice from older people that have more experience with it because a lot of my friends are on it and they seem to be making a pretty good amount of gains and they said i should hop on it and i've been thinking about it but its kind of a big step haha i was just seeing what others thought about it.
    Didnt come off wrong at all. These guys know the curiousity and temptation that’s running through your mind. They just know their stuff and have all “been there”.

    Youll be miles ahead of your friends in the long if you do it right. There’s a lot of people 50+ putting up numbers that I couldn’t imagine at 17. Being in great shape (and health) for the next 70 years is more important than instant gratification at 17.
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    shocks everyone nailed this kid on point, I will say only a good diet with fats, workout until your older, be safe stay out of any AA's .
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    Think about it this way. Follow the instructions provided. Get diet it check, eat ALOT, like ALOT - ALOT. Train like a beast. When all your "buddies" are coming off and shrinking and getting depressed, you will be getting bigger and stronger without messing with your hormones. They will be the ones wondering what you are taking. You can just tell them you were much smarter than they were and did it the right way. There is so much info out here. Read and learn. When the time is right and you still feel the need to jump on, you will then have the knowledge and support. No one will support AAS use for anyone your age. Its just not smart. I really hope you listen. We are not immortal and will always pay the consequences for our decisions good or bad.

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    id say the bare min age to run a tes cycle.....Or any cycle would be 22 my man. Youve got a few years still.

    Hang out, learn what is what in the aas world and do all other diet/training things right and you will grow. At 17 you just need good workouts/calories, your natty production should be fine for good, steady growth.

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    Perfect age to stay natty. I started training in 1977/78 when I was 12 (built my 1st home gym in parents cellar). By 14 years old I was a HS freshman. When I came back to school in sophomore year, people couldnt believe the change. (My test must have sky rocketed at that time). And I know it did, because I couldnt leave class without hiding my stiffy behind books and try to walk down the hall. (I sat behind this one girl in 1983, boner city, and we are together still 35 years later( wifey). I graduated HS at 17 in 1984 and just trained natty all the way to 2009 (30+ years) when I tried my first pro-hormone. (Epidrol). Age 50 went on TRT and first time using test. Never had access to tissue drugs or hormones like kids do today. I say eat everything in site (if you have a fast metabolism), train very hard, and then drink some more calories (look up McCallums "Get Big" drink). Be patient, I know its hard to these days w/ access to everything. Dont shut yourself down at this age, sometimes people dont recover fully. (A lot of TMI in my post, but you got me to reminisce a bit)


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    Originally Posted by Rot-Iron66 View Post
    Perfect age to stay natty. I started training in 1977/78 when I was 12 (built my 1st home gym in parents cellar). By 14 years old I was a HS freshman. When I came back to school in sophomore year, people couldnt believe the change. (My test must have sky rocketed at that time). And I know it did, because I couldnt leave class without hiding my stiffy behind books and try to walk down the hall. (I sat behind this one girl in 1983, boner city, and we are together still 3
    5 years later( wifey). I graduated HS at 17 in 1984 and just trained natty all the way to 2009 (30+ years) when I tried my first pro-hormone. (Epidrol). Age 50 went on TRT and first time using test. Never had access to tissue drugs or hormones like kids do today. I say eat everything in site (if you have a fast metabolism), train very hard, and then drink some more calories (look up McCallums "Get Big" drink). Be patient, I know its hard to these days w/ access to everything. Dont shut yourself down at this age, sometimes people dont recover fully. (A lot of TMI in my post, but you got me to reminisce a bit)



    I was even patient w/ my gym building and still have it today as well...
    (Patience is key).
    Thats a pretty funny story dude. So would you suggest staying natty for that long to others? And what made you decide to try Epidrol for the first time after all that time being all natural?

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    You should ask your mom, dad and doctor this question!
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    stay natural as long as u can. I turned to AAS just now, i'm 30, only then your test will start drop slowly and u can concider it. but 17y.o ? God NO!!!
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