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    so you will have 6wks to really be on a blast or decent cycle.

    Id try to swap for tren a instead of e.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefandmilk View Post
    Deadlift variations and lots of back work increase my Deadlift more than Deadlift itself, at least it is what I experienced . If rows, block pulls and Rdl go up my Deadlift does as well, I tried working on heavy deadlifts (70-80%) and I actually lost strength. But that's just what is working for me at the moment.
    I'm getting a little off the original post but I know what you mean with regard to the block pulls. I would only come off the floor maybe 3-4 weeks out. If you're like me, it has something to do with the location of your leg training and you may not even realize it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beefandmilk View Post
    4 months is from now until the meet, but the gear is 10 weeks out, considering that I get stronger every month even on 200mg trt only I would imagine that tren and halo would bring me to a 40kg jump a bit faster?

    90kg bodyweight record in the deadlift is 350kg here in the UK (at least federations like GPC or WPC don't know about others), I'm not really looking for a record of course but I just really want to pull 270kg and have fun
    Fuuk having fun; that's first-timer bullshit. Fun is what a 16 y.o. does with a new PlayStation Game. If this isn't your first time, you better be going for the throat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snake View Post
    I'm getting a little off the original post but I know what you mean with regard to the block pulls. I would only come off the floor maybe 3-4 weeks out. If you're like me, it has something to do with the location of your leg training and you may not even realize it.



    Fuuk having fun; that's first-timer bullshit. Fun is what a 16 y.o. does with a new PlayStation Game. If this isn't your first time, you better be going for the throat.
    What do you mean location of your leg training?

    I generally do:
    PULL DAY
    Speed Deadlifts 50-60% 5x2 or 10 singles
    Block Pull below knees
    Strict rows or Yates rows
    Power shrugs
    High volume face pulls
    Back extensions

    PUSH DAY
    Bench press
    Close grip bench
    Shoulder press
    Incline dB bench
    Decline dB bench

    LEGS
    Squat
    Front Squat
    Rdl or sldl
    Leg curls
    Leg extensions
    Ab work

    I used westside cause most powerlifters thought it was the best and It brought me me nowhere for a year. Might have been a bad implementation of the method but max efforts on a weekly basis were shite for me.
    I actually brought my Deadlift from 180kg to 220kg(was also the first time I did a 500mg test cycle) in a few months just by doing lots of back and hamstrings work with high reps (15-20) and gradually increasing the weight and using lots of advice from watching George Leeman and Jesse norris.

    BTW yes I'm a first timer lol i think it will take years to get any national record anyway. Guys of my weight class are definitely not using just 400mg of tren haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefandmilk View Post
    What do you mean location of your leg training?

    I generally do:
    PULL DAY
    Speed Deadlifts 50-60% 5x2 or 10 singles
    Block Pull below knees
    Strict rows or Yates rows
    Power shrugs
    High volume face pulls
    Back extensions

    PUSH DAY
    Bench press
    Close grip bench
    Shoulder press
    Incline dB bench
    Decline dB bench

    LEGS
    Squat
    Front Squat
    Rdl or sldl
    Leg curls
    Leg extensions
    Ab work



    BTW yes I'm a first timer lol i think it will take years to get any national record anyway. Guys of my weight class are definitely not using just 400mg of tren haha
    What are your rest days? Just trying to see how much time you have between Leg and DL work. I do DL block pulls right after Squats; I mean right after, like a 10 min rest.

    Your DL is good for anyone in the 198's but a 550lb DL in the 198's can be done without any gear; just takes more time.
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    Monday pulls
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    Saturday arms (optional)


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