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    Where is this going if a winner prevailed ?

    hopefully not an excuse to not go to the gym

    or something to sniffle about while youre lifting
    Nice 2 Meet U peasant

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron1 View Post
    For me, it's sleep hands down. I have sleep apnea so it's not the quantity of sleep that's the issue, it's the quality.
    This to a tee, I used to sleep a lot more than I do now, but the quality was shit. CPAP machine changed my life, corny as that sounds, it's true.
    Sometimes in life you have to stop and think, Is it worth the jail time?

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    Sleep. I can my workouts are fine if I reduce calories, but if I add stimulants to my cut and they interrupt my sleep I am F-ed



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    Quote Originally Posted by dk8594 View Post
    Sleep. I can my workouts are fine if I reduce calories, but if I add stimulants to my cut and they interrupt my sleep I am F-ed

    I couldnt imagine taking any stimulants in a deficit....id probably go stir crazy in a matter of minutes
    Dont you want to know what it is?
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    sleep... low carbs if long term
    StayHumble - StayHungry.

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    sleep no questions asked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robdjents View Post
    I couldnt imagine taking any stimulants in a deficit....id probably go stir crazy in a matter of minutes
    I can’t do it for long. Usually a week or two towards the end and only in the mornings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeigler View Post
    Where is this going if a winner prevailed ?

    hopefully not an excuse to not go to the gym

    or something to sniffle about while youre lifting
    It was me realizing how much sleep impacted me.

    I’m on my second big round of “dieting” trying to lower my BF from 16% to under 12%. This time around I’ve been very self aware about my endurance drop when I eat fewer calories but I work through it because I understand it’s coming.

    The other night i only had 4 hours of sleep but woke up feeling rested. That night when I went to go do a back workout I didn’t have a thing in the tank. I’ve never struggled through a back workout before and it hit my like a ton of bricks how much the lack of sleep effected me. I also had a really bad sunburn so I think the two of those things just had my body all messed up. I was honestly amazed... you hear how important sleep is but it hit home how true it was.
    “The only natural test-boosters I know of that work are compound lifting, steaks, and looking at boobies...” -Dan

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    Low testosterone.


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