Should put in insulin in my cycle or not?

PillarofBalance

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So a lot of people is in this now. My latest update is this, let me know what you think:

100mg Tren A E/D Weeks 1-4 and 13-16
300mg Tren E E3D Weeks 1-13

250mg Sustanon M/W/F - Weeks 1-13 (pin sus 1x per week)
100mg Test p E/D - Weeks 13-16

100mg NPP E/D - Weeks 1-16 (npp 2x wk is sufficient)

100mg Anadrol E/D - Weeks 1-5
25mcg T3 E/D - Weeks 1-16 (50mcg)
100mcg T4 E/D - Weeks 1-16
25mg mk-677 ED - Weeks 1-16 (this will do nothing with all the other shit total waste don't bother sell it to a stupid kid)

0.5 adex EOD (too much)
0.25 caber EOD (unnecessary)
20mg nolva ED (unnecessary unless very gyno prone)
500iu hcg EW (250iu 2 x per week)


Im 250, so im planning to eat around 5k cals. With a 40/40/20 split. I can train how much it takes, i can do as much cardio as its needed. I can do whatever it takes in any aspect, i have a strong mind.

My current split is:
P/P/L

I eat dont eat shitty food. Only eggs, oats, chicken, wild rice, sweet potatoes, beef. Very boring diet but idgaf, im here for the results. (Other food gives results. Don't be orthorexic)

Im thinking abt putting

Npp 100mg ed weeks 1-4,13-16
Deca 300mg e3d weeks 1-13 (totally not needed)

What do u guys think abt my short/long esther split?

Also any other comments?

Sorry everyone is busting your balls so bad. I think it's because your layout makes it look like there is some basic things you may not understand. What I mean is the combo of short and long esters and the use of basically every bodybuilding drug all at once. It really does look ****ed up.

There is no reason for 16 weeks you cant just do this and get the same results:

Weeks 1 thru 16

1 gram of sus
750 Deca
400 tren e
250 iu hcg 2 x per week

Orals
1 thru 4 drol 100mg daily
13 thru 16 drol 100mg daily

Ancillaries
T3/t4 at 25/100 (I would maybe do more t3 as 25 is basically a replacement of Natty levels)
Adex .5 e3d
Caber on hand if needed but you won't need it
Nolva on hand in case gyno

Sarms are for teenagers please don't use sarms.

Otherwise if you wanna stick to your original plan I have comments in parentheses where I quoted you.

Good luck.
 

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What I want to know is why run two 19-nors at the same time...? If you dont EVER have emotional side effects due to high progesterone, or dont care about your loved ones, by all means, enjoy the ride, not for me though..... Id be a wreck after week 10-11....
 

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Nope, i was 136kg which is abt 300pounds, after that cycle. Currently im like 250, thats bcuz of my father passing away so i lost a bit. But now i want to come back you know, looking for tips about the cycle setup :)

You are 6' 4", 250 lbs at 15% BF?

Post a pic.
 

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I think you need to run a gram of test by itself and rely on absolutely fine tuning your diet and training.

2 reasons:
1: high dose test only cycles are amazing and it blows my mind how many people overlook it. Effectively zero sides and you can get huge or shredded, perhaps both. Your choice.
2: as POB said it seems you’re missing a few of the basics and trying to assemble some magical stack to pick up the weak areas. That’s never a good plan.

Unless you're destroying every single local local show you enter, and have a legit shot at pro level, most of what you’ve suggested is unnecessary.
 

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^^^^^^this right here^^^^^^
 

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Current bf abt 15%. Why not two 19nor? Do u have a bad exerience abt it? Well i run tren high bcus i dont get any sides on it but heartburn. Ill get aromasin and letro. My goal is a lean ish 260.

There is a ton of information as well as stories and input from guys on here about 2x the 19nor...check it out. But you should already know what the issues arise from it if you know the compounds themselves which leads me to believe that you are just tailing several people's comments from other places and combining them. I also run tren high doses (1G at some times) but Im not going to run other stuff with it like that.
 
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Guys guys, im doing 1g sust, 700npp and 60dbol. Thats my cycle now, no complicatef shit, got too much headache, thank you.


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id drop the drol and MK677

you have enough there to grow very well.
 

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The only reason anyone gives you shit Kev is because ppl don’t wanna see someone fking kill themselves unwittingly .. ppl just lookin out for ya. A lot of knowledgeable vets of the game here.
 
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Im fine with that, just dont give me shit if ur shit urself. I can take critique. Im just very crazy and i tend to dont give a ****. Big problem..
 
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I don’t personally care one way or another, but why ask for advice and then get shitty when they give it to you?
 

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Well from the looks of it, you listened and changed it up a bit.. so either way it worked... good luck on the cycle
 
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