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    Quote Originally Posted by HDH View Post
    I actually do the opposite with drol, I run asin or adex.

    I feel if I just block the receptors and keep the estrogen, it opens the door for prolactin issues from the drol and estro combo.

    If you don't mind, please explain the nolva with drol. Maybe I will learn something new.

    Thnx.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HDH View Post
    I actually do the opposite with drol, I run asin or adex.

    I feel if I just block the receptors and keep the estrogen, it opens the door for prolactin issues from the drol and estro combo.

    If you don't mind, please explain the nolva with drol. Maybe I will learn something new.

    Thnx.

    POB beat me to it.

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    Dbol for a straight bulk. Drol kills my appetite a little so i think its better for a recomp or hardening pre contest

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    Dbol if you like the idea of feeling like a god. Drol if feeling miserable is your thing.
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    Hard for me to eat on drol
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    Dbol if you like the idea of feeling like a god. Drol if feeling miserable is your thing.
    Well then. Since you put it that way, I think I know which way to go lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PillarofBalance View Post
    Drol doesn't aromatize. Dbol does. Taking adex while running drol won't stop gyno.
    It's my understanding that the presence of estrogen is what causes a gyno flair up with drol. Keeping estrogen in check is what keeps prolactin in check from the drol. Nolva doesn't work for me. Since drol doesn't aromatize, nolva shouldn't do any good since it blocks estro at the receptors, it won't block the prolactin which would be the issue from drol.

    Let me check into it before tomorrow is up, I'm a bit rusty but this has been my belief for some time.
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    Dbol anyday. About to start my winter cycle . got a big bag of it. Cant wait to lift a car again

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    Quote Originally Posted by HDH View Post
    I actually do the opposite with drol, I run asin or adex.

    I feel if I just block the receptors and keep the estrogen, it opens the door for prolactin issues from the drol and estro combo.

    If you don't mind, please explain the nolva with drol. Maybe I will learn something new.

    Thnx.
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    Drol doesn't aromatize. Dbol does. Taking adex while running drol won't stop gyno.
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    POB beat me to it.
    Quote Originally Posted by HDH View Post
    It's my understanding that the presence of estrogen is what causes a gyno flair up with drol. Keeping estrogen in check is what keeps prolactin in check from the drol. Nolva doesn't work for me. Since drol doesn't aromatize, nolva shouldn't do any good since it blocks estro at the receptors, it won't block the prolactin which would be the issue from drol.

    Let me check into it before tomorrow is up, I'm a bit rusty but this has been my belief for some time.

    Not really anything worth a shit to bring back. I have forgotten how ****ed up it can be looking for info. Lots of guys that know what they are talking about but seem to have different answers or views.

    It seems the argument comes down to...

    Does drol effect progesterone levels or does it bypass any type of conversion and bind straight to the receptors?

    Lots of talk, but no real proof of anything. If there are any guys handy with reading studies, there may be some proof out there. Times like theses make me think of SHINE.

    So if it does effect progesterone levels, an AI would be effective in the prevention if caused by excess estrogen. If it goes straight to the receptor without any type of conversion, nolva would seem to be the choice. The only thing that everyone seems to agree on is caber/bromo.

    But, that takes us back to prolactin.

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