Deca or Tren For Bulk

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I’ve been researching the hell out of this and still decide which is better. I understand we are all different.

I’m looking to run a 12 week bulking cycle, thinking either test, deca and dbol or test, tren and eq.

Can any of you guys share your experiences.

I’m currently 95kg/210lbs and would like to hit 110kg/240lbs before running a cutting cycle.

Would this be achieveble in a 12 week cycle?
 

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If you are only running 12 weeks then don’t run deca. Too long an ester.

You can bulk or cut on either compound.

Its personal preference. Have you run either before?
 

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Test deca dbol is the classic bulk stack for good reason
Test deca eq is good too
I wouldnt use tren because it suppresses my appetite a little
 
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Whats your bf? Personally i prefer tren, but like Jin said you can bulk or cut on either compound, the key is the diet.
 

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We can give better answers for your case if you provide us with a list of past cycles.
 
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depends on how you are currently set up for bf%, diet for type of "bulking", etc. def dont run deca if its only going to be 12 weeks tho, youll barely have enough good time on it. you can bulk with tren, just be a leaner bulk for the most part. but again, several factors to take into account
 

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Unless your goal is keeping blood pressure low... then tren is the best for it
 
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Lay off the “Tren is king” comments please, it’s boring ��

no one around here said that or even says that

johnny come lately

with that attitude i wouldnt give a squirt uh piss worth of advise to you
 
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If you are only running 12 weeks then don’t run deca. Too long an ester.

You can bulk or cut on either compound.

Its personal preference. Have you run either before?

I haven’t ran either before, just a Test E cycle at 600mg pw for 16 weeks. With a kick starter of Dbol and Anavar to finish.

my body fat is around 15/16%.

The aim is to bulk to 110kg then cut then 100. Or lean bulk (using Helios Recomp Guide) and get to 100, which I guess will help me decide which to go for.

How long would you run a deca cycle for?
 

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I am in 100% agreeance with cutting or bulking is diet.

As long your body is in an anabolic state, you are covered.

Deca will give you a fuller look where tren will give you a sharper, harder look.

Deca sides are pretty mild and mostly unnoticeable where tren can give you night sweats, aggression and trouble sleeping.

You really don't have to run tren high at all, 200 to 300mg a week and get good results with shit dialed in. Less tren less sides.

Of course we should go back to Jin's post and get some cycle history. That will play a big factor in what would really be best for you.
 

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You haven’t run a 19 nor before. Also, tren isn’t a good second cycle. Walk before you run.

I suggest 18 weeks 600t/450d

if you only go 12 weeks try NPP. Same drug, shorter ester.

Don't bulk up to the point you need to drop too much weight. I’d go with the recoil. Eat like a bulk, cardio like a cut.
 

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Calm down mate. Lighten up.

you're takin uh piss right aren't you ? you're takin uh fukking piss right now ?

telling an elite member to calm down & lighten up as if you were any more than a common peasant

you're like one of those guys that starts working a job a week ago & then starts acting holier than thou that has been there for years

what uh joke !
 

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you're takin uh piss right aren't you ? you're takin uh fukking piss right now ?

telling an elite member to calm down & lighten up as if you were any more than a common peasant

you're like one of those guys that starts working a job a week ago & then starts acting holier than thou that has been there for years

what uh joke !

You were worse when you joined this place and people had to tell you the same shit.

Don't be such a hypocrite.

You sound like you're talking about yourself. The only holier than thou I see here is you.

Elite go to your head?
 

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Well, I certainly hate to bore you, don't really see my job as entertaining you either. Just finished a great "bulk" with tren, 30 lbs in 16 weeks. Yeah, I still have abs.

You can use any AAS to gain mass. It all comes down to your diet.
 

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You were worse when you joined this place and people had to tell you the same shit.

youre saying that i was told the same shit by elite members when i was green

so why are you chimming in and discrediting me ?
 

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youre saying that i was told the same shit by elite members when i was green

so why are you chimming in and discrediting me ?

This will be my last post on this as I will not take anymore of this thread up.

The answer is in my post, not just the sentence you quoted.

Honestly, I don't like bullies and guys that have to put others down to feel like a man.
 

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