Currently 6' 193lbs thinking im around 16-17% BF this will be my second cycle.
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10-10-2018, 12:39 PM #1
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Good for test cycle or drop some BF first?
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10-10-2018, 01:09 PM #2
Some guys may tell you to get leaner first but I’m about to go on at a higher bf% than you. Just manage estrogen
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10-10-2018, 01:38 PM #3
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I definitely would not suggest lowering bf. I would suggest you up the calories. What was your first cycle and how much did you put on?
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10-10-2018, 01:38 PM #4
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Who told you it's one or the other? You can run test and still cut. Trust me!
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clean your bedroom or you're grounded!!!
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10-10-2018, 02:05 PM #6
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stack some npp or nandrolone decanoate on it imo
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10-10-2018, 02:11 PM #7
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10-10-2018, 02:27 PM #8
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How long was that first cycle? How was your diet? Training? Feel you should have made more..
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10-10-2018, 03:26 PM #9
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12 weeks. I definitely should have upped the calories mid way through because my gains stalled at the end but i was slowly leaning out so i was still happy with the progress. Diet was 4000 calories (i maintain at 3750) which makes it hard to keep it clean all the time.
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10-10-2018, 03:57 PM #10
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**** no don't drop bf, that's ridiculous. Run it and eat like a machine
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10-10-2018, 04:41 PM #11
You need to focus on putting on muscle for the long term. Glad to hear the first cycle went well. I would say just repeat it and don't repeat the mistake. Stuff your face and make sure you are getting stronger.
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10-10-2018, 11:25 PM #12
If you can have your muscle mass, water and body fat tested while you are on cycle so you can see the progress. At 500 mg per week did you need any AI on your fist cycle? You may need it on your second cycle even if you did not on the first so keep some on hand. To bulk I like to add DECA and then start lifting heavy after about 3 weeks into your cycle. The DECA will have with joint issue and help your strength. You can use as litte as 100mg per week but would recommend 300 to 500mg depending on what you are looking for. DECA will cause you to retain fluid so that is one reason for the testing but realize it should go away when you are done. My wife say's if makes the muscles look puffy or like a doe boy but if you eat clean and take your AI you should see huge strength and size gains just realize it is slow to start working and will stay in your system for weeks after you stop. If you want a really lean bulk you can go with Tren (I like the way I look better on Tren) but it is very hard on the body so start with a lower dose of Tren A and build up. On this cycle I started with 20mg per day and increased it every week by 10 mg and feel great. I have tried just jumping in before and could not take it more than 4 weeks this time I am on my 6th week with no issues except looking better. I know friends that love EQ but due to a heart issue I can't take it (makes your blood thick) but for a young healthy guy it is worth a look. Good luck with what every you decide.
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