Curious about why people only suggest Test as a 1st cycle

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(PLEASE NOTE IM NOT GOING TO TAKE TREN AS A 2nd CYCLE, IM JUST CURIOUS AND TRYING TO EXPAND MY KNOWLEDGE)

I didn’t say all steroids, I said tren. This guy is on his first cycle bro.

Well bro, he didn't say he was going to take it on his second cycle. He even specified he was not going to take tren on his second cycle. But you missed my point. Tren or any type of steroid is not exclusively reserved for those that compete. Like anything someone takes, it's a reasonable level of comfort that a person needs to have with what they are doing.
 
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That's like saying no one should take any steroids unless they are or plan on competing. Everyone has their own reasons. And actually, you don't even need them to compete.

Yeah, and no woman should have a breast augmentation unless she's a model, stripper or pornstar.

I don't compete and I took tren in my second cycle. I'm gonna just let that stand there....
 

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I think they just do it so theyre always bigger than us.
 

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I think they just do it so theyre always bigger than us.

Oddly, one of my friends ran test/tren for 6 months because he couldn't stand the fact that I was bigger than him. I have been working out 3 years and well, he had only been working out for 6 months since starting again after a decade long layoff. He damn near killed himself because his hematocrit shot up as well as his RBC count. He said his blood looked like jello after it is just barely chilled in the fridge when his doctor performed that first therapeutic draw.
 

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Yeah, and no woman should have a breast augmentation unless she's a model, stripper or pornstar.

I don't compete and I took tren in my second cycle. I'm gonna just let that stand there....

You may not compete.

But you ARE winning.
 

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All the other members covered it pretty well. You take test first to understand what dosage you need and how to curb sides. Seems like you probably didnt get blood work done midway, which can also indicate poor knowledge. Lots of people can get by with test only cycles and not need to do this, but everyone is different. That is why we suggest a test only cycle. Perhaps your estrogen runs really high so you have have to take higher AI than recommend. Doing test only also gives you the opportunity to learn that hey maybe I should actually get labs and start to log what I am doing before you destroy your system. If you are doing so well on test why stop it? A lot newer people running gear think that they will be huge after a cycle or two, which is simply not the case. The massive guys on here have run years of cycles, not only that but it was used in conjunction with pristine diet/training/logs/labs/no days off along with multiple sources of information. They just want you to be safe, harsh yes, but that normally is the only thing that gets through thick skulls.

Run a couple test cycles like they said. Increase dose, when you hit a plateau then consider multiple compounds.
 

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