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    Simple question but being a great responder shouldn’t have anything to do with blood values right? It’s more on the response to a given blood value. I.e 3000ng/Dl in me vs Hurt will have a much different tissue response.

    I imagine genetic differences effect the rate of aromatization or how fast it’s cleared via other methods but X amount injected should equal Y amount in the blood stream outside of that. How we respond makes or breaks it.

    Am I missing something obvious?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trump View Post
    Just to confirm the test was 100% medichecks, so where do I go from here?
    Since those numbers are likely to be falsely elevated, and you said you feel fine, I would do as DYS advised - stay the course

    It is something to be aware of in the future though. The fact that UK bloodwork is useless for monitoring folks on 19-nors. Problematic to say the least.
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    Would you say then that I should only use these blood tests on my cruise and not my blast. If they are effected by tren and deca which is probably what I will be blasting on that I better saving my money. My blasts will probably be always low test higher tren/deca

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    Since those numbers are likely to be falsely elevated, and you said you feel fine, I would do as DYS advised - stay the course

    It is something to be aware of in the future though. The fact that UK bloodwork is useless for monitoring folks on 19-nors. Problematic to say the least.
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    Jin has been trying to blame the super human changes in my body on me being a super responder to AAS since I joined this forum. My suspicions are that he is just jealous and doesn’t want to admit that I am just a better/bigger man than him

    Quote Originally Posted by Viduus View Post
    Simple question but being a great responder shouldn’t have anything to do with blood values right? It’s more on the response to a given blood value. I.e 3000ng/Dl in me vs Hurt will have a much different tissue response.

    I imagine genetic differences effect the rate of aromatization or how fast it’s cleared via other methods but X amount injected should equal Y amount in the blood stream outside of that. How we respond makes or breaks it.

    Am I missing something obvious?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trump View Post
    Would you say then that I should only use these blood tests on my cruise and not my blast. If they are effected by tren and deca which is probably what I will be blasting on that I better saving my money. My blasts will probably be always low test higher tren/deca
    Then don't waste your money. If you're using a source you know and trust, just run bloods a few months after your tren or deca blasts to make sure everything is going back to normal - lipids, liver values, kidneys, etc. Not just test and E2

    Nobody should ever look at their bloods on tren lmao. To scary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trump View Post
    Would you say then that I should only use these blood tests on my cruise and not my blast. If they are effected by tren and deca which is probably what I will be blasting on that I better saving my money. My blasts will probably be always low test higher tren/deca
    The hormonal results are essentially useless when using 19-nors so yes, you can skip that portion of the testing. Whether this will actually save you money is debatable - you'll likely end up spending whatever you saved and then some on accessory drugs to proactively prevent any issues from cropping up. Issues that you cannot monitor objectively - it's all about "feel", which is problematic.

    I would personally skip the use of 19-nors completely. I hate the idea of not being able to objectively monitor myself and don't see any reason why I MUST use 19-nors. But that's just me.
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    Zilla i I have no problem skipping anything if advice tells me. In your opinion with what I have for testing in the uk what would you advise for my blasts??


    Quote Originally Posted by MrRippedZilla View Post
    The hormonal results are essentially useless when using 19-nors so yes, you can skip that portion of the testing. Whether this will actually save you money is debatable - you'll likely end up spending whatever you saved and then some on accessory drugs to proactively prevent any issues from cropping up. Issues that you cannot monitor objectively - it's all about "feel", which is problematic.

    I would personally skip the use of 19-nors completely. I hate the idea of not being able to monitor myself and don't see any reason why I MUST use 19-nors. But that's just me.
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    Ok I got you what would be the best time for my cycle after I finished this blast I will be going back to 300mg test e every 10 days

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    Then don't waste your money. If you're using a source you know and trust, just run bloods a few months after your tren or deca blasts to make sure everything is going back to normal - lipids, liver values, kidneys, etc. Not just test and E2

    Nobody should ever look at their bloods on tren lmao. To scary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trump View Post
    Zilla i I have no problem skipping anything if advice tells me. In your opinion with what I have for testing in the uk what would you advise for my blasts??
    If you don’t run tren and deca/npp you will go back to being small and fat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jin View Post
    If you don’t run tren and deca/npp you will go back to being small and fat.
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