Short Esters - anyone prefer these?

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Anyone prefer short esters? What would you say the pros are besides shorter clearance times?
 

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I like them i just dont wanna pin so much...Ill add prop into my cyp shots during my blast..Makes the cyp much better imo
 

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Long esters result in my blood counts going well over range. Test A and Test P keep me right at the upper range. Blood work doesn't lie.
 

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Long esters result in my blood counts going well over range. Test A and Test P keep me right at the upper range. Blood work doesn't lie.

Thanks, I might experiment a bit.
 

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Theres more room for error with shorter esters because they will go out of your system faster if you take to much. At the end of the day its just a matter of halflife, they are the same exact thing except for longer esters having less room for error because they will be in you for longer.
 

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Theres more room for error with shorter esters because they will go out of your system faster if you take to much.

Have you ever taken too much steroids? I haven’t. Maybe I’ll try.
 

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ToolSteel once said I "keep the demand going for TNE" all by myself lol

I used TNE exclusively as my test; nowadays its tren base that stays.

I prefer the quickest results. Since I cruise though, only tren will be the short ester.

Short esters promise results begin at 1-2 weeks versus 4 to 5 weeks with longer esters. Stupid to wait if you have no reason to be patient.
 
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Have you ever taken too much steroids? I haven’t. Maybe I’ll try.

I didnt mean too much as in an overdose or something, thats not how steroids work, I just meant as if you were shooting for a certain blood range that you are use to.
 

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This brings up the question of frontloading again. Why not take double dose of a long ester for 2 weeks or so to get started?
 

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This brings up the question of frontloading again. Why not take double dose of a long ester for 2 weeks or so to get started?

You mean short esters? To get a start?
 

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This brings up the question of frontloading again. Why not take double dose of a long ester for 2 weeks or so to get started?

I thought everyone who did long esters did a front load?
 

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Ive heard varying opinions
 

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I thought everyone who did long esters did a front load?

That looks like hogwash. Source?

Also kinda related-as I've said, everyone should end worry over hormone levels and stuff fluctuating. That's how endogenous hormones behave; there is no stability, and honestly, it may be harmful to keep hormone levels stable and not flunctuating.
 

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That looks like hogwash. Source?

Also kinda related-as I've said, everyone should end worry over hormone levels and stuff fluctuating. That's how endogenous hormones behave; there is no stability, and honestly, it may be harmful to keep hormone levels stable and not flunctuating.

I like to keep my body guessing. I give my 4 year old a 3cc barrel and just let her fill it to the point she likes then inject it.

Its always a different amount every week.
 

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You must shock de body

I like to keep my body guessing. I give my 4 year old a 3cc barrel and just let her fill it to the point she likes then inject it.

Its always a different amount every week.
 

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You must shock de body

Exactly. Keep it wondering. My body never knows if it will be strawberry or blueberry each post workout...
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I prefer the quickest results. Since I cruise though, only tren will be the short ester.

Im crushing as well but it seems using a short ester on top of TRT might be a good way to get back to baseline faster if you have a lot of bloodwork to time.

I’m still learning to manage BP levels so a short ester seems helpful. I’ve had to come off for a few weeks to get my BP low enough to donate blood. Using a diuretic has also helped. Having to wait for things to clear over a few weeks or build up again doesn’t seem the most efficient.
 

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