So damn tired! Need help!

[Jingajinga]

Hey everyone new here. I'm currently experiencing a big problem with sleepiness. Here's my background been lifting for 14 yrs 9 years of natty 5 years not so natty. Been competitive for 5 years. Never gets off due to doctor putting me on trt. Currently running 500mg of test e for life. Stats - 33yo weight 125kgs around 15 bf. Now for the past yr n half I been experiencing sleepiness. Now it's to the point where I have 10hrs sleep gets up to go training come back pass out again wheneva I sit down. Anyone here can shed some light on this problem? In the past I always thought it was a e2 problem now I'm not so sure since adex isnt doing jack.

 

[Spongy]

wait... You inject 500mg test per week as a TRT protocol? That's a cycle man...

What does your bloodwork say?

 

[Jingajinga]

Decided to do my own thing after my endo told me men dont produce estrogen. Figured at 500mg I'm able to just hold my size. Blood come back fine aside from high liver ezynme. But when I say I'm on 500 who knows the crap from this country is absolutely garbage.

 

[Spongy]

what else are you taking?

 

[Texan69]

Check your thyroid?
whats your estrogen at? And how often and intense are you training? Carb intake? Other medications? Could be a lot of factors

when i suddbenly up my dose of test or add compounds I always get sleepy and get the flu but once I pin a few times my body gets used to it. Also when up my adex I get very lethargic. There’s many factors here for you to think about and hopefully narrow down to the cause

 

[daddyboul]

My energy levels are generally based around my diet, have you made any big changes to diet recently?

 

[Jin]

Sounds like high e2. If your gear is a crapshoot maybe your ai is too?

Bloodwork.

I’m not a conservative use guy, but 500/wk for life is well over my risk/reward limit.

 

[Texan69]

Sounds like high e2. If your gear is a crapshoot maybe your ai is too?

Bloodwork.

I’m not a conservative use guy, but 500/wk for life is well over my risk/reward limit.

Whats the biggest risk at that level? Heart attack ?

 

[notsoswoleCPA]

Sounds like high e2. If your gear is a crapshoot maybe your ai is too?

Bloodwork.

I’m not a conservative use guy, but 500/wk for life is well over my risk/reward limit.

Hell, I won't even do 500 mg per week of one compound in a cycle these days. I am lucky that I still respond well to 300 - 400 mg of test during a cycle.

 

[rawdeal]

Decided to do my own thing after my endo told me men dont produce estrogen . . .

Your Endo's lawyer might be able to defend that statement, but he'd have a hard time explaining why your Endo didn't explain how testosterone can aromatize into estradiol.

 

[Jin]

Whats the biggest risk at that level? Heart attack ?

Over the long term there will likely be damage to the heart and thickening of the heart walls which could lead to heart attack.

You would most likely suffer some benign prostate enlargement which would affect your quality of life; waking up 3-4 times per night to urinate.

 

[Iron1]

Also a higher hematocrit and hemoglobin level which could lead to stroke.

 

[DieYoungStrong]

You ever get checked for sleep apnea?

 

[Spongy]

You ever get checked for sleep apnea?

good call. ain't nothing wrong with a cpap

 

[Patriot1405]

You ever get checked for sleep apnea?

Was thinking the same. Good call

 

[Jingajinga]

o first of all thx for the replies, yes I have thought about most of the things u guys sugguested. currently doing nothing but test e 500/wk for the past year or 2. never a big user but constantly cruising on the same amount. Had a nasal septum surgery done few years back so I don't think sleep apnea is the problem. As for diet im eating fairly clean n trains 6 days a week thyroid is all good never plays with drugs like T3 T4. never ever had a problem for first 3 years of gear use then shit hit the fan as e2 went off the roof. ever since then I been watching my bloods 3 things is always out of whack. liver, Rbc + E2. Adex worked at first now im on 0.5mg - 1mg eod doesn't do jack. I can never tell if its too high or too low since im one of those guys that never gets sides cepts for this sleeping issue( most the time the bloods e2 is on the high side). so what u guys reakon should I up the adex or change to 300mg/wk primo for a while?

 

[JuiceTrain]

Adex eod? Seems a bit a extreme....
I'm currently on 1g test and take 1mg adex every 5days

Find a new adex supplier....that shxt sounds bunk as fuk

 

[Texan69]

o first of all thx for the replies, yes I have thought about most of the things u guys sugguested. currently doing nothing but test e 500/wk for the past year or 2. never a big user but constantly cruising on the same amount. Had a nasal septum surgery done few years back so I don't think sleep apnea is the problem. As for diet im eating fairly clean n trains 6 days a week thyroid is all good never plays with drugs like T3 T4. never ever had a problem for first 3 years of gear use then shit hit the fan as e2 went off the roof. ever since then I been watching my bloods 3 things is always out of whack. liver, Rbc + E2. Adex worked at first now im on 0.5mg - 1mg eod doesn't do jack. I can never tell if its too high or too low since im one of those guys that never gets sides cepts for this sleeping issue( most the time the bloods e2 is on the high side). so what u guys reakon should I up the adex or change to 300mg/wk primo for a while?

What is your e2 levels at last time you got bloods? Also consider giving blood if your RBC is high, just a smart thing to do. And I would not switch to primo
youve been on a cycle dose for a year or two you said so may consider coming down for a few months and giving body a rest
at least coming down to 250-300mg a week.

Another dumb question, how much water are you drinking? Maybe too much or not enough? If your training hard little things here and there could be draining your energy. Me personally if I am dehydrated even slightly I get sleepy as heck. Just another thing to think about

 

[JuiceTrain]

Also do you donate blood or take any type of vasodilator? (I.e. cialis)
Might wanna start doing both if your gonna run that dose for the long run. These always better helped me keep bloods in check.

 

[JuiceTrain]

But if you've been at 500mg for the past two years I'd start by lowering the dose to an actual trt level for a few months.