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Hey, I’ve been lurking and reading stickies last few days, thought I’d follow up my intro with some personal info, considering this info will be the basis for y’all to answer any of my future questions. The Cashout sticky was an especially good read. There’s a wealth of information here and I’ve only scratched the surface.
And since there’s always new folks here looking to jump on the TRT train, some should get some benefit from reading about my 3+ years on cypionate.
Started Fall 2015, got a Dexa and bloodwork. BF23% weight (can’t remember - probably about 180) Total T came back at about 350, free T at 11. Asked doc of it was low and he giggled at me. He was a cool guy, and we got along well.
started with the cream. Twice a day under the arms, for those of you unfamiliar, you get it compounded at a pharmacy to your Drs specified concentrations. You click the applicator and rub it on. Also note twice daily doses have different concentrations than once a week injectable doses for obvious reasons. This got old quick, twice a day may not sound like a lot but I had my one and only rodeo with gear back in ‘87 in college. It was a 10 week cycle of cypionate, I got bigger, so I told him ‘give me that’.
got a second Dexa 6 weeks later and I put on 14 lbs of muscle and was at 19%bf
aa for dialing in the dose, we started at 200mg every week. His goal for me wasn’t a specific number of total T, he said ‘the high end of average free T’ was 25 and he said we want to be a ‘little better than average’ and set the range at 25-30
I’ve since changed Drs, why? New Dr is 20 minutes closer to my house and way less expensive. For those of your who may be unfamiliar, neither of these two Drs take insurance and I’m unaware of any that do. However, the 10ml bottle of test I get is partially covered by insurance and my cost is about $40
now just to be clear (and this is where I’m sure some of you will have input) not every physician is going to agree on what an optimal level is. My current Dr wouldn’t bat an eyelash if my free T came back at 50. She’d ask me how I’m feeling, and if my labs looked good, she’d leave well enough alone.
Now referencing Cashout’s sticky, his numbers and philosophy run concurrent to my own. It took a couple of years, but I finally have my dose dialed in at 100mg every 5 days (as opposed to 140mg a week)
my total t came in last draw at 1230 and free T at 31. Based off the stickies I’m reading here, I have labs in 3 weeks, I’m going to pay closer attention to my E2 and if there’s anything else you folks think I should be looking at/for now would be the time to drop suggestions.
Dialing in dose, for me, was based on side affects. Two things I had going on at 200mg a week was acne (back and forehead), and nipple soreness. I knew my E2 was high, (not dangerously but high nonetheless) funny when I asked Dr (first Dr) about taking an AI, he told me to lower the dose, and didn’t want to prescribe an AI because too low estrogen is bad for the heart. He also said the acne was a sign of excess hormone.
so anyway I’m currently at 185 and I’m flirting around 10% bf. I train my ass off 4 days a week and my dilemma is where to go from here. My physique is good, I should also note I’m 6’0”. While I haven’t added a tremendous amount of size, my musculature has matured immensely, I’m on the slender side with a hard and vascular look. I’ve got pretty good symmetry as well, although now that I’m nit picking, my lower lats could use some work. I’m like anybody else, I want more size but like being lean. I’d been as high as 207, don’t want to go back to that. My goals aren’t too lofty, I’d like to add (net) and keep an extra 10 lbs of lean muscle. How to go about that remains to be seen.
If you read this far, thanks.
And since there’s always new folks here looking to jump on the TRT train, some should get some benefit from reading about my 3+ years on cypionate.
Started Fall 2015, got a Dexa and bloodwork. BF23% weight (can’t remember - probably about 180) Total T came back at about 350, free T at 11. Asked doc of it was low and he giggled at me. He was a cool guy, and we got along well.
started with the cream. Twice a day under the arms, for those of you unfamiliar, you get it compounded at a pharmacy to your Drs specified concentrations. You click the applicator and rub it on. Also note twice daily doses have different concentrations than once a week injectable doses for obvious reasons. This got old quick, twice a day may not sound like a lot but I had my one and only rodeo with gear back in ‘87 in college. It was a 10 week cycle of cypionate, I got bigger, so I told him ‘give me that’.
got a second Dexa 6 weeks later and I put on 14 lbs of muscle and was at 19%bf
aa for dialing in the dose, we started at 200mg every week. His goal for me wasn’t a specific number of total T, he said ‘the high end of average free T’ was 25 and he said we want to be a ‘little better than average’ and set the range at 25-30
I’ve since changed Drs, why? New Dr is 20 minutes closer to my house and way less expensive. For those of your who may be unfamiliar, neither of these two Drs take insurance and I’m unaware of any that do. However, the 10ml bottle of test I get is partially covered by insurance and my cost is about $40
now just to be clear (and this is where I’m sure some of you will have input) not every physician is going to agree on what an optimal level is. My current Dr wouldn’t bat an eyelash if my free T came back at 50. She’d ask me how I’m feeling, and if my labs looked good, she’d leave well enough alone.
Now referencing Cashout’s sticky, his numbers and philosophy run concurrent to my own. It took a couple of years, but I finally have my dose dialed in at 100mg every 5 days (as opposed to 140mg a week)
my total t came in last draw at 1230 and free T at 31. Based off the stickies I’m reading here, I have labs in 3 weeks, I’m going to pay closer attention to my E2 and if there’s anything else you folks think I should be looking at/for now would be the time to drop suggestions.
Dialing in dose, for me, was based on side affects. Two things I had going on at 200mg a week was acne (back and forehead), and nipple soreness. I knew my E2 was high, (not dangerously but high nonetheless) funny when I asked Dr (first Dr) about taking an AI, he told me to lower the dose, and didn’t want to prescribe an AI because too low estrogen is bad for the heart. He also said the acne was a sign of excess hormone.
so anyway I’m currently at 185 and I’m flirting around 10% bf. I train my ass off 4 days a week and my dilemma is where to go from here. My physique is good, I should also note I’m 6’0”. While I haven’t added a tremendous amount of size, my musculature has matured immensely, I’m on the slender side with a hard and vascular look. I’ve got pretty good symmetry as well, although now that I’m nit picking, my lower lats could use some work. I’m like anybody else, I want more size but like being lean. I’d been as high as 207, don’t want to go back to that. My goals aren’t too lofty, I’d like to add (net) and keep an extra 10 lbs of lean muscle. How to go about that remains to be seen.
If you read this far, thanks.