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    Do you get leaner, as you gain muscle mass? Recomp Question... Help plz.

    Iíve read in more places then one that cutting (unless pre comp) is a complete waste of time on the road to becoming a bodybuilder, or even someone with a well respected physique (230-280lbs sub 10% bf)



    The reason, or so Iím told, is because as you put on more lean mass your body will recomp itself to use those stored calories in body fat to maintain your lean tissue.

    Do you guys believe this to be true? Iím currently sitting at 6í0 215lbs, currently on week 10 of a 12 week cut. Iíve lost 15lbs, and about 10% of my bf. Currently at roughly 12% bf. Within the next 2-3 years, im looking to take my physique to the next level. Perhaps 240-260lbs, something similar to Larry Williams. Iím more so focused on the powerlifting side of things as opposed to competing in BB. Iíve never been sub 10% bf before so Iím always tempted to see how lean I can get as opposed to focusing on growth and raw strength and power. Interested to hear on your guys takes and opinions



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    I hope you don’t think you can accomplish your goals without steroids.

    240-260 at 10% is a pretty elite level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jin View Post
    I hope you donít think you can accomplish your goals without steroids.

    240-260 at 10% is a pretty elite level.
    Hahaha no ofcourse not, currently on 500mg tren ace, 200mg test prop and 50mcg T3 for this 12 week cut Iíve been on. Probably should of mentioned that...



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    Quote Originally Posted by Jin View Post
    I hope you donít think you can accomplish your goals without steroids.

    240-260 at 10% is a pretty elite level.
    To further simplify my question, I guess Iím wondering if I should focus on attaining the size before the desired BF% and work my way up from there on a ďlean bulkĒ. Obviously bulking up without gaining some fat is impossible, but Iíve never been sub 15% bf before. Just not sure at what point I should call a quit on the cutting and focus on sheer size and strength.



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    Quote Originally Posted by bigtravdawg View Post
    To further simplify my question, I guess I’m wondering if I should focus on attaining the size before the desired BF% and work my way up from there on a “lean bulk”. Obviously bulking up without gaining some fat is impossible, but I’ve never been sub 15% bf before. Just not sure at what point I should call a quit on the cutting and focus on sheer size and strength.
    you can probably do either way.

    I get carried away with being freakishly large on bulk. I was 299 in winter and now I’m cutting to under 10%.

    I think I could have probably gained the same lean mass with a more disciplined bulk with less overall body weight.

    I certainly wouldnt recommend staying under 15% whilst bulking.

    I was probably 20% at 299.

    You say you are focused on powerlifting but your real goal seems to be your appearance/physique. You need to get your priorities straight.

    Another reason I go a little too far when I bulk is that I get caught up in strength (ego) instead of focusing on physique. My priorities have changed to strictly bodybuilding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jin View Post
    you can probably do either way.

    I get carried away with being freakishly large on bulk. I was 299 in winter and now Iím cutting to under 10%.

    I think I could have probably gained the same lean mass with a more disciplined bulk with less overall body weight.

    I certainly wouldnt recommend staying under 15% whilst bulking.

    I was probably 20% at 299.

    You say you are focused on powerlifting but your real goal seems to be your appearance/physique. You need to get your priorities straight.

    Another reason I go a little too far when I bulk is that I get caught up in strength (ego) instead of focusing on physique. My priorities have changed to strictly bodybuilding.
    My priority would certainly be PRís on lifts. Physique second, the only thing Iím looking to achieve physique wise is a solid base of mass, and a mild six pack. Iím not interested in becoming a big beer bellied heavy pig dogging my wife while wiping sweat off my brows struggling to breathe while hoisting 1000+ off the ground. Hence, why I look up to Larry. Not freakishly huge, wickedly strong whilst maintaining a lean physique.



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    Quote Originally Posted by bigtravdawg View Post
    My priority would certainly be PR’s on lifts. Physique second, the only thing I’m looking to achieve physique wise is a solid base of mass, and a mild six pack. I’m not interested in becoming a big beer bellied heavy pig dogging my wife while wiping sweat off my brows struggling to breathe while hoisting 1000+ off the ground. Hence, why I look up to Larry. Not freakishly huge, wickedly strong whilst maintaining a lean physique.
    You can focus on strength/powerlifting and maintain 15% bf and a mild six pack fairly easily while steadily putting on lean mass over the coming years. If your goal is truly strength, do it. I understand the desire to look good naked and not feel like you are gonna die having sex, so just keep up with your cardio as you make sure you are getting the needed cals to recover well in your lifts. Look into intermittent fasting if you haven't already.
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    If strength is the real goal, getting below 10 percent bf will undoubtedly be counterproductive

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    Powerbuilder! FYI, most guys hate that word so be careful using it. lol

    No two ways about it, you can be strong and look good but one has to take precedent over the other. I can tell this, at 10% BF, the gains come hard regardless of what you're trying to do and at 8%, forget it. If strength is your main goal, let that develop and the size will come. A more refined look will come with your diet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snake View Post
    Powerbuilder! FYI, most guys hate that word so be careful using it. lol

    No two ways about it, you can be strong and look good but one has to take precedent over the other. I can tell this, at 10% BF, the gains come hard regardless of what you're trying to do and at 8%, forget it. If strength is your main goal, let that develop and the size will come. A more refined look will come with your diet.
    Please just say, hybrid lifter lmao
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    Ummm you don’t think Larry Wheels physique is freakish?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DieYoungStrong View Post
    Ummm you donít think Larry Wheels physique is freakish?
    Not in comparison to some of the IFBB pros. Going for a physique like Larry would be completely different then to aspire to someone like Regan Grimes



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