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I have always been a long ester guy. A friend had a vial of Tren A he was not going to use so he gave it to me. Figured I use it at the start of my cycle and then head to the E after 3 weeks. Running my TRT dose and 300 on the Tren.

I am use to the 4-5 week kick-in time but I'm at 18 days and feeling it. My first indication is that full bicep feeling and I'll be damn if I don't have that feeling now. Seriously, if someone said they were feeling something at the 2 week mark, I'd think they were just being hopeful.

Maybe I shouldn't be complaining but have any of you guys felt this so early and on a moderate dose?
 

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You shooting the Ace ed or eod? One way you've done 18 shots by 18 days, other way about 9. I'm also a long-ester guy, but shouldn't you be feeling it by then, ed or eod?

Also, you complete Ace @ 3 weeks and only then begin Enanthate ..... won't that introduce a new kick-in time?
 

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Snake the only way your plan works is if you start the Tren E and Ace at the same time, and then stop the ace around week 4 or 5 and continue the Tren E. Like RD said, if you stop the Ace and just start the E, you're almost starting over.

I usually start "feeling" short esters within a week and seeing results by week 3. Long esters start "feeling" it week 3ish and results around 5.

Either way, personally I would just run the Ace or E and keep it simple. Tren A kicks much harder anyways.
 

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You shooting the Ace ed or eod? One way you've done 18 shots by 18 days, other way about 9. I'm also a long-ester guy, but shouldn't you be feeling it by then, ed or eod?

Also, you complete Ace @ 3 weeks and only then begin Enanthate ..... won't that introduce a new kick-in time?

Mon. Wed. Sat. 100mg/pin
 

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Snake the only way your plan works is if you start the Tren E and Ace at the same time, and then stop the ace around week 4 or 5 and continue the Tren E. Like RD said, if you stop the Ace and just start the E, you're almost starting over.

I usually start "feeling" short esters within a week and seeing results by week 3. Long esters start "feeling" it week 3ish and results around 5.

Either way, personally I would just run the Ace or E and keep it simple. Tren A kicks much harder anyways.

Yeah I know what you mean and I would have to expect a valley here. Thanks for your experience with the kick-in time. Thought I was crazy.
 

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I feel ace pretty quick. I had an extra last cycle so I did the same thing you are but I pinned both for 3 weeks then dropped the ace.
 

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If all you have is one vial of ace, but sitting on multiple vials of E for your planned cycle, then start mixing the two now. yes, I feel short esters pretty quickly.
 

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I feel ace pretty quick. I had an extra last cycle so I did the same thing you are but I pinned both for 3 weeks then dropped the ace.

With what you and DYS said, I may get an early jump on the E. Maybe pin both the last pin.
 

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guessing DYS meant more overlap than just one pin?

Yeah well that's all that's left. If I drop a spot in the Mr. O, DYS can give me shit over it. He has a valid point but where I'm at and for what little weight I'm lifting, I'll be fine.
 

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Yeah well that's all that's left. If I drop a spot in the Mr. O, DYS can give me shit over it. He has a valid point but where I'm at and for what little weight I'm lifting, I'll be fine.

Well you know for next time:32 (17): surprised to see you running tren again
 

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I love starting a cycle on fast esters npp is awesome. Tried tren ace a couple times both ways high test and low.
Cant deal with the sides . but after a few weeks could lift a car.
 

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I used to use Sustanon years ago for that jump start aspect,,then switch to Test-E around week 2 or 3 (with Sust for 2 weeks)....But mow,,stick with Test-E or C...............
 

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Last time I found my limit. This time I made up my mind to just do 300 and keep my test down to TRT.

well maybe it doesn't matter much but 300 of tren E is not the same as 300 of A. You could always go a wee bit higher with the E
 

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I used to use Sustanon years ago for that jump start aspect,,then switch to Test-E around week 2 or 3 (with Sust for 2 weeks)....But mow,,stick with Test-E or C...............

Jump start aspect with Sustanon? how so?
 
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