Second cycle opinions

[DNW]

I'm going to be starting my 2nd cycle end of this month and just wanted some feedback.
This is what I'm thinking of doing:

Week 1-4 40mg Dbol ED or something similar?
Week 1-14 400mg Tren E a week, 200mg Test C or E a week, .50 Adex EOD
Week 6-15 250 IU HCG 2x week
Week 15-20 .25 Adex E3D
Week 16 500 IU HCG EOD
Week 16-18 50mg Clomid ED/20mg Nolva ED
Week 18-20 25mg Clomid ED/10mg Nolva ED

I was also thinking about adding Masteron. For this cycle any recommendations on Masteron dosing/freq, and on adding Dbol, drol, whatever week 1-4.

Previous cycle:
Week 1-4 40mg Dbol ED
Week 1-14 250mg Test C 2x week, .50 Adex EOD
Week 6-15 250 IU HCG 2x week
Week 15-20 .25 Adex E3D
Week 16 500 IU HCG EOD
Week 16-18 100mg Clomid ED/40mg Nolva ED
Week 18-20 50mg Clomid ED/20mg Nolva ED

October 5, 2018 - March 3, 2019
208 lbs - 270 lbs.
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Loose skin because I used to weigh 370 lbs. Then I rediscovered the gym.

Stats now:
35 yrs old, 6'3, 253 lbs but I need to cut more

Nutrition:
Before bulk I cut on 1700 cal, no cardio. When i started the bulk I went up to 2200 and hit a plateau in weight gain. I increased to 2700 and it happened again. I kept doing that until I ended at 4000 cal. Macros were 50p/35c/15f. Carbs and fat were sometimes 30c/20f though...way too hard to hit 15 on fat. I'm now cutting on 2200 cal.

I know that it's only my second cycle and I want to get into Tren, but I think you can tell I'm pretty anal. I keep log books, measurements, pictures, and I listen to my body. I tried cutting back the Adex to .25 EOD and I got super ****ing depressed. Took me a week to figure out it was the Adex. Also, just wanted to say thanks for all the information on this site. I researched my ass off and always found myself coming back here.

 

[hulksmash]

I'm going to be starting my 2nd cycle end of this month and just wanted some feedback.
This is what I'm thinking of doing:

Week 1-4 40mg Dbol ED or something similar?
Week 1-14 400mg Tren E a week, 200mg Test C or E a week, .50 Adex EOD
Week 6-15 250 IU HCG 2x week
Week 15-20 .25 Adex E3D
Week 16 500 IU HCG EOD
Week 16-18 50mg Clomid ED/20mg Nolva ED
Week 18-20 25mg Clomid ED/10mg Nolva ED

I was also thinking about adding Masteron. For this cycle any recommendations on Masteron dosing/freq, and on adding Dbol, drol, whatever week 1-4.

Previous cycle:
Week 1-4 40mg Dbol ED
Week 1-14 250mg Test C 2x week, .50 Adex EOD
Week 6-15 250 IU HCG 2x week
Week 15-20 .25 Adex E3D
Week 16 500 IU HCG EOD
Week 16-18 100mg Clomid ED/40mg Nolva ED
Week 18-20 50mg Clomid ED/20mg Nolva ED

October 5, 2018 - March 3, 2019
208 lbs - 270 lbs.
View attachment 8068View attachment 8069
Loose skin because I used to weigh 370 lbs. Then I rediscovered the gym.

Stats now:
35 yrs old, 6'3, 253 lbs but I need to cut more

Nutrition:
Before bulk I cut on 1700 cal, no cardio. When i started the bulk I went up to 2200 and hit a plateau in weight gain. I increased to 2700 and it happened again. I kept doing that until I ended at 4000 cal. Macros were 50p/35c/15f. Carbs and fat were sometimes 30c/20f though...way too hard to hit 15 on fat. I'm now cutting on 2200 cal.

I know that it's only my second cycle and I want to get into Tren, but I think you can tell I'm pretty anal. I keep log books, measurements, pictures, and I listen to my body. I tried cutting back the Adex to .25 EOD and I got super ****ing depressed. Took me a week to figure out it was the Adex. Also, just wanted to say thanks for all the information on this site. I researched my ass off and always found myself coming back here.

GREAT job!

I say go for the Tren.

You obviously know what you're doing. Someone as detailed as yourself would not be in any harm adding Tren for a second cycle.

I didn't read all the numbers (I'm a KISS guy), but you clearly will do what works for you.

Keep it up!

 

[Straight30weight]

I agree, run the tren. Tremendous job man

 

[TODAY]

You've made incredible progress, man.

As far as the cycle goes, I'm of the opinion that HCG is best run from beginning to end so long as your estrogen stays reasonably well controlled. As such, maybe consider continuing the HCG through the end of your PCT?

 

[Gibsonator]

Excellent job man, outfukkinstanding!!!!

 

[Jin]

Wow.

Great work. Also- the shape of your abs are pretty cool.

 

[DNW]

Thanks all. You guys think I should I should kickstart dbol or drol? I was kind of leaning towards dbol bc of the estrogen relationship it would have with the tren. I mean theres already estrogen associated with the test I'll be taking. What about adding masteron. It is a bulking cycle so I dont know if I want to add

 

[DNW]

You've made incredible progress, man.

As far as the cycle goes, I'm of the opinion that HCG is best run from beginning to end so long as your estrogen stays reasonably well controlled. As such, maybe consider continuing the HCG through the end of your PCT?

Thanks man. Yea, I think I'm going to run HCG from the beginning, but keep the rest the same.

 

[John Ziegler]

Great work but im not jumping on this you look great so go ahead and tren it up on a second cycle bandwagon .

Tren isnt a second cycle steroid.

 

[snake]

Someone has put the time in; nice job.

I like the idea of running the Adex past your cycle. Most guys stop for some reason at the end of their cycle and think their e2 will be fine; it won't.

 

[hulksmash]

Someone has put the time in; nice job.

I like the idea of running the Adex past your cycle. Most guys stop for some reason at the end of their cycle and think their e2 will be fine; it won't.

I can add that I ran an AI during blasting AND cruising non-stop to prevent water (why not) and it never gave me problems.

I added Adex back just now and plan to run it non-stop again.

Letro is king though, though...I weep for its absence in my life.

 

[Beserker]

Great work but im not jumping on this you look great so go ahead and tren it up on a second cycle bandwagon .

Tren isnt a second cycle steroid.

Not even third in my opinion.




I have no doubt that you’re going to put on a great amount of mass without it.. your determination and dedication is obvious.

 

[Jada]

Great job man, u come a long way

 

[DNW]

Tren isnt a second cycle steroid.

I would tend to agree with you. I'm not like the majority of green steroid users...dumb. I also understand the argument that there are other compounds you can get big on. But not like tren.

This is probably too much explanation, but the truth is I'm impatient. I spent 10 years of my prime at 370 lbs. That's always in the back of my head. And my goal is to go for classic physique...calum, bumstead, or Bradley Martyn. I feel like my time is running out.

I respect your opinion though.

 

[Jin]

Personally I’d support your decision to run tren. You obviously are dedicated and know what you are doing.

Generally I am against people running tren that early but You’ve demonstrated you aren’t relying on aas for results.

 

[The Tater]

Awesome work dude. I’m a trt guy but it appears that you know what you are doing and also will put in the time to research. I say do what you feel is good for you man. That is some excellent progress. Wow

 

[automatondan]

Nice work dude. Congrats on the transformation (to say the least). I think you are fine with tren, I think you know the potential negative implications, but you have a goal and you are going to be as smart as possible reaching it. You asked about mast, it's one of my favs/loves. I personally prefer to run mast along side tren, seems to lessen my emotional sides and increase my well-being, but that could be in my head... Either way, I will always run mast from here on out.

 

[DNW]

Someone has put the time in; nice job.

I like the idea of running the Adex past your cycle. Most guys stop for some reason at the end of their cycle and think their e2 will be fine; it won't.

Thanks. You mean past week 20 in this instance? Last pin is week 14, and with the half lifes puts it at roughly 3 weeks later. I'll have to look into it then.

 

[DNW]

Nice work dude. Congrats on the transformation (to say the least). I think you are fine with tren, I think you know the potential negative implications, but you have a goal and you are going to be as smart as possible reaching it. You asked about mast, it's one of my favs/loves. I personally prefer to run mast along side tren, seems to lessen my emotional sides and increase my well-being, but that could be in my head... Either way, I will always run mast from here on out.

Thanks brotha. I think I'm going to run mast 400-500/wk from week 10-16 in this cycle. The only sides I'm worried about are emotional...the others I'm ok with. I am going to have caber on hand but I honestly dont think I'll need it at 400/wk tren

 

[automatondan]

Thanks brotha. I think I'm going to run mast 400-500/wk from week 10-16 in this cycle. The only sides I'm worried about are emotional...the others I'm ok with. I am going to have caber on hand but I honestly dont think I'll need it at 400/wk tren

Never underestimate the power of tren. The thing about tren at low(ish) doses is you never see it coming until it's too late.