Two weeks on feeling off

[fightsport]

So I was on 210 Test Cyp for years as HRT. I would normally do 10 weeks on, the 2 weeks off with clomid and Hcg. I then wanted a kid so I went clean for like a year. Got a kid.
I decided to come back on and want to take a full cycle to kick it off, so I am running 450 test Cyp plus 300 Deca plus 30 Dbol a day. I run 2 days of 20mgTamoxofin and 3 days of 1mg Anastrozole a week.
ok...so two weeks in and my feet are swelling up, my appetite is shit and and my resting heart rate is 80. I dont have a BP machine but I'm guessing it is high.
WTF. I dont feel like my intake is that high. I had pre-cycle labs done and I was 100% a-ok.
thoughts?

 

[Jin]

Your labs were 100% ok pre cycle meaning you weren’t suffering low t?

why were you on trt previously?

who recommended that protocol and why?

The dbol and ancillaries are the only compounds which would work inside two weeks. I’d say it was the dbol but I cannot imagine 3mg/wk of adex isn’t sufficient to counteract the aromatization.

Welcome. Please write up an introduction in the new member section.

 

[NbleSavage]

x2, Jin's thoughts on the possible causes. Unless yer gear is tainted (I'm assuming yer running the same Test ye wear when on TRT) I'm thinking there's no chance the Deca has built up in yer system yet (have ye run nandy before? any reactions then?) and so likely the Dbol is the culprit. Perhap yer AI's are bunk?

Welcome to UGB.

 

[fightsport]

My t was under 300. I meant all my other vitals were good. Red Blood cells, etc.
originally on HRT by some shady dr I paid a lot of $ to, my T was like 500 when I started it. But then I went off it and had my first kid. when I went to my Primary care dr, he tested me and it was like 280 so he put me on it and insurance paid. then I just had my 2nd kid and here we are.
I chose this set up based on reading and what was available to me.
I always tended to run a bit high BP, but never retained water like this. that's what has me the most concerned. I ordered a BP cuff off Amazon. I may go donate some blood next week.

 

[fightsport]

all my gear is Dr. prescribed or acquired. It's all pharma.

 

[Jin]

all my gear is Dr. prescribed or acquired. It's all pharma.

What country do you live in?

 

[fightsport]

What country do you live in?

USA. I should have been clear the Test Cyp was and the Deca Dbol was acquired from a dr in Eastern Europe whilst travelling there.

 

[NbleSavage]

Ye got a script for Adex? Ye have breasts? Most here end up with research chems for AI, which can be suspect.

 

[fightsport]

yeah,my HRT dr gave me that. my estrogen levels ran high and he gave me tamoxifen and Arimidex and as many refills as I want, same with clomid.
NYU Langone medical. I didnt think that was an issue.

 

[Mythos]

Up the AI is my rule when I start holding too much water. 40 a week of tamox with an AI seems Ike it should be keeping you pretty dry though.. I don't know anastrozole doses as I only use stane, but if I take similar tamox doses on cycle with a low to moderate AI I will shed water very quickly.
Like they said, maybe dbol is not for you.. Especially if you had issues with est sides on HRT

 

[snake]

The dbol isn't helping. Dbol is not for everyone even at 30mg/day. I think that's only half your problem, the other could be the Adex. Adex is a drug and not without its own side effects; swollen feet/ankles being one of them. Here's my guess on the anastrozole- Adex, you're over dosing and your E2 is in the tank.

The Tamoxifen will take some time to do it's job but it's not going to help and if I'm right, you'll feel even worse in another week.

 

[fightsport]

The dbol isn't helping. Dbol is not for everyone even at 30mg/day. I think that's only half your problem, the other could be the Adex. Adex is a drug and not without its own side effects; swollen feet/ankles being one of them. Here's my guess on the anastrozole- Adex, you're over dosing and your E2 is in the tank.

The Tamoxifen will take some time to do it's job but it's not going to help and if I'm right, you'll feel even worse in another week.

Yeah. I think backing off the Arimidex is probably a good call, I dont have any other symptom of too much estrogen and I just started my cycle so it really is probably overkill. I expect the BP meter to get here today. If my BP is really high, I may discontinue the Dbol, although my pumps have been awesome this week.

 

[Straight30weight]

Drop the Dbol.

 

[Mythos]

OP, if you remember sometime down the line, you should come back and update this thread. It's always been helpful to me when reading old forum posts when you can see what eventually happened with a problem.

 

[fightsport]

I have so far stuck with the plan. I've tried drinking more fluids and taking diuretic supplements. So far things have improved. I think it was just an initial reaction to the Dbol. Perhaps my body took some time to adjust.
The workouts have been great. I have not tested my BP yet. I have been taking 10mg of Cialis EOD as well based on some of the threads here.

 

[Jin]

I have so far stuck with the plan. I've tried drinking more fluids and taking diuretic supplements. So far things have improved. I think it was just an initial reaction to the Dbol. Perhaps my body took some time to adjust.
The workouts have been great. I have not tested my BP yet. I have been taking 10mg of Cialis EOD as well based on some of the threads here.

you should be monitoring your blood pressure. If you cycle you should own your own BP cuff. They’re cheap.

Not something to slack on.

 

[fightsport]

I just pulled a 140/85.
going to measure it again in the morning. not great.

 

[Jin]

I just pulled a 140/85.
going to measure it again in the morning. not great.

Not too bad. What are you taking currently? Did you drop the dbol?

 

[fightsport]

just measured again and got 117/69. I took 20mg of cialis after I took my BP last night.
Much better read. This was before I took my first dbol of the day.
I have not dropped anything.
I take 300 deca on Monday, 200 test cyp Tuesday, 250 text cyp on Friday. and 30 dbol a day.
I am still taking arimidex and tamoxifen.