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    Originally Posted by Jin View Post
    I had good results raising my test levels with Hcg only. However I never recovered.

    Only way to be sure is to run a PCT after the hcg and then bloods (X amount of time. I don’t know the timing) after the PCT.
    Got it. Can I ask what u ran/did to never recover?

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    Originally Posted by BigSwolePump View Post
    You lost points at blast and cruising sarms.


    Save your money and buy the good stuff. You will get much better feedback and actual results on that vs sarms here.
    Right! If I only knew. My first pin was with HCG so now I'm over the fear. Looking forward to some test and...who knows what else if all goes well.

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    Originally Posted by Devius View Post
    Got it. Can I ask what u ran/did to never recover?
    I never touched a steroid until I was diagnosed with testicular failure. My guess was it was OTC Animal Pak test booster. But I cannot say for sure.


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    Originally Posted by Jin View Post
    I had good results raising my test levels with Hcg only. However I never recovered.

    Only way to be sure is to run a PCT after the hcg and then bloods (X amount of time. I donít know the timing) after the PCT.
    So I finished tapering down nolva/clo and got retested.

    My original test was 104 and now I'm 808, free test 140. I did about 20mg nolva the day before the test.

    I guess that's ok. I was gonna wait a few months retest, but .... already starting test e
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    Originally Posted by Devius View Post
    So I finished tapering down nolva/clo and got retested.

    My original test was 104 and now I'm 808, free test 140. I did about 20mg nolva the day before the test.

    I guess that's ok. I was gonna wait a few months retest, but .... already starting test e
    How long after pct did you get tested? It’s my understanding that you must wait a certain amount of time until the pct drugs clear your system to get an accurate reading of your natural levels.


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    Wait why are you on test? Why did you bother with hcg/nolva/clomid?
    Size is the prize and swole is the goal

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    Well I was tapering it down, a lot. I took about 10 or 20 mgs nolva the day before.
    Can those serms really boost natural Testosterone that high? If so, why don't some people just take those lol

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    Originally Posted by Straight30weight View Post
    Wait why are you on test? Why did you bother with hcg/nolva/clomid?
    I felt I had to kickstart my testes with the HCG. I did a blast for a few weeks, took 3 days off, then started serms for about 3 weeks. Tapering down.

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    Originally Posted by Devius View Post
    I felt I had to kickstart my testes with the HCG. I did a blast for a few weeks, took 3 days off, then started serms for about 3 weeks. Tapering down.
    Oh, jumping on test now to compete in December

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