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    Second Cycle - Input and Opinions

    First cycle was the standard 500mg Test C per week - was actually pinning 300 myself on top of the normal 200 TRT dose. Gains were good (about 15lbs of quality muscle) lifts went up about 25% across the board, endurance, stamina etc...

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    Height: 5'10
    Bulk Weight: 210lbs
    Current weight - 190lbs
    BF - 13-15%
    Bulk lifts - Bench 315, Squat 345 (poverty I know), Deadlift 525
    Current lifts - Bench 285, Squat 325, Deadlift 505
    Bloods - all in line as of last week
    AI: .5mg per week

    Planning to run another bulk cycle at the start of September - current thoughts are TRT dose (200mg) + 300mg Deca

    Goals - Gain as much lean mass and strength as possible for 16 week blast - thoughts are to taper off Deca dose around week 14(?) - I did not taper last time and had some bad bacne during the tail end of things; my hope is the tapering would let hormone levels settle before the end of the cycle and dropping back to TRT dose. Thoughts on this idea?

    Concerns - Deca dick; myth yes/no? I'd like the ole boy to keep working to keep the wife and myself happy. Sex drive has been great since starting TRT would hate to see that diminish. Opinions on having cialis on hand?

    Safety - constant BP checks by doctor, ability to have testing done throughout (if needed), and will order some caber in case of prolactin issues.

    Food - currently eating around 2200-2500cal per day I plan to up that to 3500-4000cal per day on bulk

    Any input or thoughts?

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    Interested in how it goes. I'm going to be trying trt plus 300mg npp starting in September myself. I got nasty acne from just 400mg test also.

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    Got a smudge of the ‘ol deca dick running 650 npp and 0 test.

    Turns out if you stay below that ratio you should be ok. Ymmv
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    First off, those are impressive numbers, especially for your weight.

    If you want to run deca and trt: go for it. It’s a great cycle with little sides. 300 is too little imo. Run 400.

    I’ve run 900 deca trt for over 20 weeks with zero libido or ed issues. Have caber and Ai on hand.

    Cialis is an excellent drug for overall health. I recommend being on low dose Cialis regardless of sexual function. Helps with BP/heart health.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jin View Post
    First off, those are impressive numbers, especially for your weight.

    If you want to run deca and trt: go for it. It’s a great cycle with little sides. 300 is too little imo. Run 400.

    I’ve run 900 deca trt for over 20 weeks with zero libido or ed issues. Have caber and Ai on hand.

    Cialis is an excellent drug for overall health. I recommend being on low dose Cialis regardless of sexual function. Helps with BP/heart health.
    I like my test higher, but everything else I agree with.

    Cialis is a great pre workout, also.

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    I say do 250-300 test and 400-600 deca. I personally liked 300/600. Also, with the deca, I'd stretch it out to 20 weeks as long as things are manageable... If you are already a TRT guy, you can go a little longer on stuff than a normal cycle guy. I also agree that Cialis is a great drug to take regularly. It's helps keep BP in check, and helps with the mental game in the sack. Win-win.
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    Awesome - thanks for all the input guys. I'm going to follow Jin's suggestion and up the Deca to 400 and run that. Currently trying to shred that last few pounds and then entering maintenance until September.

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    Jin is one us older guys that loves Deca and it loves him.....with no sides...I have seen a rise of guys with tons of sides from Deca ,,,that's a shame....for decades I've used it and even at 800 a week,,,nothing but good things...That all being said ,,,if it's your 1st run with it ,,,have everything on hand and watch for sides,, and I wouldn't exceed 400...not on the 1st run...good luck !!


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